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by bharati on 02:38 AM January 19th, 2005 EST (#1)
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I have made the same comment at many forums. which is that F4j has raised the coinciousness of men that they can no longer be satisfied with limited contact which they get with their children and men can no longer shamed into demanding they they withdraw from childrens life at whims of the mother of their child.
My thub rule calculation which I will be posting in a day or on my blog
www.gender-indian.blogspot.com shows that even assuming that the mothers take more of the burden of the child care and that we should have similar access to parents as if they are married then the norm should 20 hrs of awake time per week with the father with standard deviation of 3 hours that means 90% of accesses should be between 15 hrs to 25 hrs per week of waking time . If the there is difference in child visitation awards from these figures then definitely family courts are biased. Can the judges release the Mean. Median , Mode standard deviation and the what is the access of the 90th percentile year on year . I think not because then it will clearly expose theri biases.Father 4 justice please continue your work because any victory in one country is going to spill all over the world.Just as suffragettes ensured adult franchise in Britain and it became the norm in all the countries. You are best positioned as the leader to ensure the changes in interest fairness and for next generation .
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by bharati on 02:46 AM January 19th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Is their any study done on the mean , standard deviation pattern of working of men and women and leisure time pattern. Can sombody point me a link to that study . I want my thumb rule to be as based on studies as possile rather then my own observation.
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by Anonymous User on 08:13 AM January 20th, 2005 EST (#4)
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See the "Time Use Studies" section at http://webuse.umd.edu/
John P. Robinson at Univ. of Maryland has done a lot of work on time budgets. His book, Time for Life (written with Geoffrey Godbey, Penn. State Press, 1997), focus on time use in the U.S. But you can also find data there on other countries.
Please don't ignore the fact that husbands often have no choice other than to work full time. Women often have the choice to work or to stay at home with the kids. So the amount of time that fathers spend with their children is not necessarily the amount of time they would if they had a free choice, or even the same choices as women do.
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by bharati on 11:39 AM January 20th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Correct but if the wife remains housewife and th ehusband continues to work then she get lot more of the waking time with the child and so essentially the hours will stil remain the same .
Let me give you an example
Say a child waking time is aroun 16 hours and the mans working time is 8 hrs per day so the wife spends 16 hrs per day with child and the husband spends 8 hrs with the child now obviously for the child to maintain similar relationship with both the parent will mean that the out 16 hrs the child spents 5 hours with father and 10 hours with the mother. Remember she is not working any way so she get the time during her working time.But 5 and 10 hr every day so it works out to approximately 35 hours per week for the father and 70 hrs for the mother . Actually if only you work then the time that you can get on this model you would get more time with you child anyways simply becuase the mother otherwise teh remaining 8 hours would have to be split as 4 hrs and 4 hours etc.
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by Anonymous User on 07:44 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#6)
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You've got a point, but I see the time issue more like alimony. Upon divorce, a husband who worked full-time while married to support a stay-at-home mom is typically expect to pay money to support his ex-wife. What fails to be considered is the opportunity cost to the ex-husband of missed time spent with his children because he was working to support his wife. I think men who worked full-time during marriage should have the option of receiving compensatory child custody time if in their new situation they no longer have to work full-time, either because the ex-husband personally is willing to accept a lower standard of living to be with his children, or the ex-husband finds a new spouse who gives him the choice to do so.
Taking care of children is both work and joy. Family law pretends that it's just work. If that was the case, no one would have children.
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by Anonymous User on 08:33 PM January 19th, 2005 EST (#3)
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F4J are real superheroes! Time for more men to slip into a phonebooth, take off their glasses, and make a change of clothes.
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