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Salvation Army converted to feminism?
posted by Adam on 12:19 PM January 17th, 2005
Inequality SJones writes "The Memphis Tennessee Salvation Army has joined the swelling ranks of feminist non-profits that claim to assist families, but create their own definition to excluse fathers altogether. I sent them money and received a letter of thanks say, "on behalf of .. all the other women and children we serve, we once again say thank you." No mention of serving men at all. When I worked for AutoZone's corporate office in Memphis the Salvation Army convinced the company to donate money for a women-only shelter in which pre-existing space for homeless men was switched to a female-only building. When I asked about this they claimed there are far more homeless women than men. I checked on this claim and found it to be completely false.

I emailed the Salvation Army a reply to their letter saying, in effect, since you quietly discriminate against males while claiming to be a Christian ministry I will never again offer any assistance of any kind to you. Spread the word. Anyone who wants to give to their local Salvation Army needs to check it out first. I checked their main homepage and found only a women's ministry, but no men's ministry. There was a policy statement saying that females are the cornerstones of family and society, with no mention of males having any value at all. I emailed their main office asking for an explanation and warning that I am going to spread the word to men's rights groups about them. So everyone spread the word. And then bombard them with letters or phone calls."

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This Is NOT Rocket Science Salvation Army! (Score:2)
by Luek on 04:10 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#1)
"on behalf of .. all the other women and children we serve, we once again say thank you."

Why is it so damned hard to just say,"on behalf of .. all the other MEN, women and children we serve, we once again say thank you." instead of just women and children?

I will not give anymore to the Salvation Army either until they disavow their misandry.
Re:This Is NOT Rocket Science Salvation Army! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:03 AM January 18th, 2005 EST (#8)
I used to give money to the Salvation Army.
The opperative words being; "USED TO"!
Not even at Christmas time, will I put a cent in their red buckett.
Right now, my family gives money to the Lakota reservation, through an organization that DOESN'T discriminate against men.
There are people literaly FREEZING TO DEATH (that the media won't cover) on alot of reservations.

If this were the Salvation Army they would let the men freeze to death, apearantly, but not the women. In essence that is what it ammounts to.

If there is any doubt that this country has literaly declared war on it's male citizens, things like this should be a wake-up call...!

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I wrote em a letter. (Score:1)
by Clancy (long_ponytail@yahoo.com) on 02:08 PM January 18th, 2005 EST (#11)
I was pissed when I read how the S.A. has made all men invisible. I'll never think twice about NOT reaching for my wallet the next time I hear that bell ringing. I should tell the MAN that is braving the freezing weather to collect donations that, although his actions are altruistic and are done selflessly, I pray you never need to ask for their help in return.
Re:I wrote em a letter. (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden @ yahoo.com) on 08:06 PM January 18th, 2005 EST (#12)
"although his actions are altruistic and are done selflessly,"

Actually, around here anyway, most of the time the bellringers are assigned through their half-way projects, and they are told that if they collect more than $50 they can receive a percentage. At least here, these are primarily men and some women receiving services from Salvation Army.
Re:I wrote em a letter. (Score:1)
by Clancy (long_ponytail@yahoo.com) on 12:32 PM January 19th, 2005 EST (#13)
OK, thanks. I did not know that. From personal observation and recollection from childhood to present day, I only remember seeing men at the red coin pots swinging the bell. But, memories are not always reliable. I received a reply from the webmaster at the Salvation Army. I don't know the sex of the respondent but it was terse. I guess they've been receiving a few emails as of late. Noteably, this person said that they'd already responded to me, which they had not. Furthermore, the message said that since I don't care about facts, I will have to deal with it. If they are being innundated I can't say I blame them. The author did give me a nice God bless you at the end. The gist of my reply was that it is all about perception and if millions of men perceive, right or wrong, that they are being slighted then they do themselves a huge disservice. The consequences of such an omission may have an impact on the level of contributions given by men.
Non-profits (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:59 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#2)
All non-profits (which do seek fat profits for the execs...) ARE FEMINIST now.

This is an area where feminists can attain high ranking jobs with bullshit degrees and with no true skill-set other than that they belong to a sisterhood that hates men.

These women maintain academic/gender feminist policy in all areas of public service as disenfranchised men sink deeper into the cracks of society.

In any city one can see that there is an underclass of mostly men living with little/no support from non-profit organizations.

These career girls have taken over government funded (and not) social organizations. They can not target men of power, so they deny help to the underprivileged men in society and get their false sense of self worth from helping women only.

Salv Army (Score:1)
by scarbo3 on 05:32 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#3)
This is one for Glenn Sacks, in my estimation. Time for a new campaign!

Also, if memory serves, the Independent Women's Forum recently gave high marks to the Salvation Army. But I doubt they would have given them the praise that they did had they known about this.

They are a highly visible organization in my town. They run a "Tree of Lights" campaign every Christmas season. Lots of media. Golden opportunities for exposure.
"women and children" (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:55 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#4)
I refuse to support any organization that pretends that children are the spontaneous production of women. Services for "women and children" are just another way of making fathers invisible.


Re: Sorry ... no "men's programs" at the Salv-Army (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:56 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#5)
A quick review of the Salvation Army's international web site at www1.salvationarmy.org shows hundreds of programs and resources for women -- see their pull-down Quick Link for "women's ministries."

Included are rough estimates of millions of dollars flowing into women-centric activities.

Here's what a search for men's resources produced --

" Search Results for "men's programs"
 
Sorry, your search for men's programs produced no results."

I'm not with you on this one (Score:1)
by Thomas Jefferson on 09:40 PM January 17th, 2005 EST (#6)
I don't believe the Salvation Army makes men invisible. It get good marks from the Indepentant Women's Forum. The simpler explaination is that it's a tradional organisation that does nothing more than plays on men's genetic predesposition to protect women and children, for fund raising, at least. They don't leave men to rot.

We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. -- Thomas Jefferson

Christian organization? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:20 AM January 18th, 2005 EST (#7)
Women the cornerstone of the family!?What bible are they reading?The bible states that man is head of the wife as Christ is head of the church and that the husband is the spiritual head of the family.Looks like another christian organization has sold out to the secular humanists and feminists.SHAME!
Re:Christian organization? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:08 AM January 18th, 2005 EST (#9)
But how else can the feminists make women the "dominant gender"?
They must kill as many men, in as many ways possible.
It's just men. Who cares?
Re:Christian organization? (Score:1)
by Kyo on 08:48 AM January 18th, 2005 EST (#10)
One question: When they say "on behalf of all the other women and children", was this in a form letter? Anre't they, by using the word "other", presupposing that the donor is also a woman or child? (Realistically, a woman, since it's adults who make these donations.)

I'd tell them to start with their thank-you notes when they decide to clean up their misandric act.

Kyo
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