VA HB1737 Going to Vote 1/17/2005

	posted by Matt on 02:47 PM January 13th, 2005
	With reference to this story on MANN, MANN received the following from Harold Leist: Hello everyone, Earlier we chatted about HB 1737. I have been informed that today it came up for consideration in the Virginia General Assembly House Courts of Justice Criminal Subcommittee. To refresh your memory, this is the bill where they will put you in jail for being $25,000 behind in your child support. Now for some that seems like a lot of money. To some of you it would take a couple of years of not paying to rake up that much past due. However, to some on this list it is about 4-5 months. All it would take is for someone in this range to have a serious medical condition or get fired before they can go to jail. Click "Read more..." for the rest of Harold's note.

	This Monday, 1-17-05, it’s going back to a vote. I want to ask each of you to contact everyone on the list below and express your displeasure over this bill. It needs to die in the subcommittee where it currently is. For those who know me you know I’m not much on the "slippery slope" thinking. However, what is next year? Reduce it to $15,00 then what? In the chat from the state coordinators it looks like lots of state Attorney Generals, who want to run for Governor, are making their bones on "being tough on deadbeat dads". I wouldn’t put it past or AG Kilgore for doing the same thing. Please contact the people below. Please have your friends do it also. Remember the vote comes up on Monday. Please do this soon. Harold Chairman: Albo, David B. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1042 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Albo@house.state.va.us Room Number: 527 Legislative Assistant: Jeremy Greenfield/J.B. Young Secretary During Session: Bonnie Yospin Armstrong, Ward L. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1010 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Armstrong@house.state.va.us Room Number: 501 Legislative Assistant: Anna McClain Secretary During Session: Kay Smith Bell, Robert B. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1058 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Bell@house.state.va.us Room Number: 810 Legislative Assistant: Jo Viglione/Mick Bransfield Secretary During Session: Sandy Talmadge Griffith, H. Morgan General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1008 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Griffith@house.state.va.us Room Number: 607 Legislative Assistant: Karen Stephenson/Karla Boughey/Joshua Myers Secretary During Session: Pat Lorimer Hurt, Robert General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1016 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Hurt@house.state.va.us Room Number: 812 Legislative Assistant: Brenda Bowman/Denise Van Valkenburg Secretary During Session: Julia Bouck McDonnell, Robert F. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1084 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_McDonnell@house.state.va.us Room Number: 529 Legislative Assistant: James Toscano Secretary During Session: Billie Thompson McDougle, Ryan T. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1097 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_McDougle@house.state.va.us Room Number: 517 Legislative Assistant: Anne D. Korman Secretary During Session: Frances Phillips Melvin, Kenneth R. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1080 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Melvin@house.state.va.us Room Number: 502 Legislative Assistant: Necole Hodges Secretary During Session: Kay Smith Moran, Brian J. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1046 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Moran@house.state.va.us Room Number: 711 Legislative Assistant: Elsie Mosqueda/Audra Tafoya Secretary During Session: Donna Knicely Watts, Vivian E. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1039 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Watts@house.state.va.us Room Number: 406 Legislative Assistant: Deborah Sherman Secretary During Session: Cynthia Burkholder Weatherholtz, Glenn M. General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1026 Fax: (804) 786-6310 Constituent Viewpoint: (800)-889-0229 Email: Del_Weatherholtz@house.state.va.us Room Number: 716 Legislative Assistant: John H. Elledge, III Secretary During Session: June Stephenson Robert F. McDonnell - (Ex-Officio) ===== Harold Leist VA Coordinator, National Non-custodial Parent Class Action Law Suit http://www.leist.us (read the suit) E-mail address (contact me) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Virginiacivilrightscouncil (discuss the case)

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It's easy to "owe" $25,000 in "child" support (Score:2) by HombreVIII on 03:58 PM January 13th, 2005 EST (#1) I once recieved a bill from the state for more than double that. How? Well, up until then nobody had ever claimed to have any kids by me. Then, one day, a woman I hadn't seen in many years claimed that I was the father of her 6 year old daughter, (a girl I'd never even met). The letter I recieved from the state was written in a very threatening tone, and encouraged me NOT to dispute fatherhood and telling me I could face additional costs if I did. It mentioned that they were required by law to inform me how to dispute fatherhood if I was such a scumbag as to do that, (instead of doing the responsible thing and owning up to being the father without knowing whether I was or not, in spite of my strong doubts), and of course, I am that kind of scumbag. And what do you know, those damned DNA tests proved I wasn't the father. So, as my own real-life example shows, you can find out you owe more than $25,000 in child support at the same time you find out you have a child, (or that someone is claiming you do). That's not the only way to accumulate a bill like that, you could be out of work for a while or have to switch to a lower paying job, etc.

Re:It's easy to "owe" $25,000 in "child" support (Score:0) by Anonymous User on 04:38 PM January 13th, 2005 EST (#2) Would this law let sleazy women jail innocent men by not telling them they have a child and suing for paternity once $25,000 of support is owed? Kingsley G. Morse Jr. Reproductive Rights Chairman National Center for Men                           Protect Voluntary Fatherhood                           http://www.choiceformen.com

Re:It's easy to "owe" $25,000 in "child" support (Score:2) by HombreVIII on 05:37 PM January 13th, 2005 EST (#3) That's a great question. I wonder if I would have been sent to prison under that law and had to wait the time prisoners have to wait (about 2 years) to get a DNA test and prove I'm the father.

Re:It's easy to "owe" $25,000 in "child" support (Score:0) by Anonymous User on 09:20 PM January 13th, 2005 EST (#4) Glenn Sacks' current HisSide (HisSide.com) program audio stream features multiple horror stories from guys who paid their child support and still got whacked by the child support agencies whose livelihood is based on extortion. One fellow, a former NBA player, paid over $90,000 in child support over 12 years, and is now serving a year in prison because he paid the mother directly and the CS collection agency would not recognize his payments. And while he's incarcerated with zero income, his back-due CS payments plus interest keep piling up! Another interesting fact is that many state's child support enforcement services have been recently "privatized" under contracts to for-profit firms that get a cut from dollars reaped from prosecuting men supposedly in arrears. This used to be called racketeering, back when the mobsters were not faceless feminazi civil servants masquerading as protectors of women & children.

Re:It's easy to "owe" $25,000 in "child" support (Score:1) by The_Beedle on 10:52 AM January 14th, 2005 EST (#5) So this woman either thought you were the father, and thus spent six years denying you access to your child, or didn't think you were the father, and used a state agency to attempt to rip you off for $25,000. Why is it she can't be pursued by the state for that? And if you'd been the dad, and coughed up the $25,000, you'd get to travel back in time and have contact for those six years, right? And you'd get receipts to prove the money was entirely spent for your child's benefit, right? And then we'll have ice cream and ride ponies.

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