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by mcc99 on 01:18 PM January 6th, 2005 EST (#1)
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Just amazing, the degree of misandry and dripping contemptuous hateful sexism these people are expressing. You MUST read this article. Here is just one small excerpt:
What happened? Robson tells that their friends largely left them. "Inez said she could no longer come to meetings at our house because our rooms exuded maleness." Raquel, another friend, "told us she couldn't believe we simply didn't give up the 'male child' for adoption when 'the bourgeois' were starving for healthy white baby boys and it would be so easy for us to start over." Another lesbian friend showed up to give speeches "about lesbian strength being dissipated, about lesbian separatist ethics, about lesbian obligations to the future, about the inviolability of gender."
Finally, another lesbian, whose sexual advances Robson had rejected, "stood up at the Coconut Grove Lesbian Dance, Meeting, and Pot Luck and proposed a rule that would bar all 'lesbians in any way participating in male-energized households' from the group."
In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son.
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by Dave K on 02:11 PM January 6th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Since most other forms of hate have been legislated into illegality, this is one of the only ways for us to see what true bigotry unfettered looks like.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by Agraitear on 02:19 PM January 6th, 2005 EST (#3)
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Lesbian parenting by and large incorporates strong feminist concepts. Patriarchal families teach girls what they cannot do and teach boys what they cannot feel. They traditionally teach boys to sublimate their emotions into only two areas: anger and aggression."
It is a complete load of crap that men only teach anger and aggression to their offspring. This is the biggest problem with this issue. Good parents are good parents, period. The whole idea that genitals convey common sense, caring, and teaching skills is laughable.
I grew up in a traditional two parent household. Dad was the primary breadwinner, mom worked part time and kept the house. I learned skills and lessons from both parents, my parents were two good people and subsequently good parents.
I find it's not two lesbians raising children that is the real issue, but it is a good smokescreen for those wanting to further the concept of Men=Bad. The idea that men only teach the negative is what is insulting, upsetting and threatening here, IMHO. Blurring the real issue allows the examples of well adjusted sons of lesbians to act as the shield for the man-haters/slanderers to stay safely out of the spotlight.
That's my spin, anyway.
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by Anonymous User on 04:37 PM January 6th, 2005 EST (#4)
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Sounds to me like they just want a new way to create more wussie-poopie males to heap on the growing pile in society. (I guess Hollyweird isn't makeing them fast enough...,)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 04:49 PM January 6th, 2005 EST (#5)
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You would think that the feminists might have concerns about how boys being raised by lesbian couples are very likely to witness domestic violence, since rates of DV among lesbian partners are higher than those among heterosexual couples.
But I guess the socializing effects of DV (which feminists claim teach boys to be violent against women)are only "bad" if they happen in an evil patriarchal family that includes a father.
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"Brian, a bright and personable third-grader, brought home from school a form that frustrated him: his family tree, complete with empty spaces for mother, father, and four spaces for grandparents."
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"In her own chapter, Jess Wells insisted that she had done everything within her power to avoid giving birth to a son."
Life can be tough on many people, however, to deliberately set out - before conception - to bring a child into the world that is knowingly going to be crippled to this extent, is frankly obscene. These boys are being borne merely as 'Pets' at the whim of some deranged woman, and without any 'real concern' for the blight being so disgustingly inflicted. At least the children born into slavery were made to feel wanted by the mother !
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by Raymond Cuttill on 08:21 PM January 9th, 2005 EST (#13)
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Note that “social parenting” is fine and biological ties don’t matter. Except when we’re talking child support. Single mothers can have no fathers around or a step-father around and whoever raises the child is the child’s family, but as soon as child support comes up the real biological father is sent the bill. It even happens sometimes with lesbian couples. When the lesbian couple fall on hard times or spilt up, who do they charge? The “2nd mummy”? No, if they can identify the real father, even if he he’s never been involved with the child, then he pays child support.
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This article shows what a perverted ideology feminism is. My opinion is, these perverts should be sterilized,
Bert
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From now on, men's rights first.
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by bro on 04:14 PM January 7th, 2005 EST (#8)
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I found this within the artical:
"A socially and biologically driven phenomenon is producing a disproportionate number of male children within the current lesbian baby boom," Wells writes. "Lesbians who choose to undergo donor insemination now have at least a 65 percent chance of bearing a son."
Wells went on to explain why this is so. She argues that male sperm weigh less than female sperm and therefore swim faster and are more likely to reach the egg ahead of sperm without a Y chromosome. The disproportionate number of boys born to lesbian mothers is thus, at least in part, an ironic slap in the face from an unforgiving biological fact.
Is this even true? I beleave they are making up facts just to support their claim that women are at a disadvantaged when it comes to sperm!!!
-Bro
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by Konovan on 01:46 AM January 9th, 2005 EST (#11)
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For that to be true (the "male sperm swim faster" part), wouldn't heterosexual couples show the same percentage of males born?
A theory that would probably make more sense is that male sperm survive the freezing process better than female sperm.
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by Thomas Jefferson on 04:59 PM January 7th, 2005 EST (#9)
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A newspaper article was discussed on this board severl months ago about two lesbians upringing methods. They had six foster children, one girl and five boys. The boys, though not the girl, in addition to other horrors were made to eat animal feces . I guess that was their interpretation of how to raise boys with sensistive qualities, not containated by the mythological patriarchy. Good and bad are relative to the observer. In the eyes of the female supremacists, crippled males are doing, "fantasically well." Wasn't that the quote in the lastest article from the so-called social scientist {demogogue} who was running interference for these lesbian child abusers. Give credit were credit is due, though. Drexler writes some very good PR. She has an exceptional talent at whitewashing the worst abuse and selling an extremist idea with soft language. Perhaps, her original aspirations were on Madison Avenue. My heart goes out for that boy; he's being set up for failure. I know it, you know it, and least of all the lesbians know it, too. Need I remind you, "personal is political" is the mantra of the female supremacy. For every looser male is both (1)an opening for a female and, (2) a future propaganda point for the feminazis. Of course, they'll spin his failure on the patriarchy, not the abuse they subjected him to.
I wanted to repost the original article, but it's no longer posted. Go figure, the press likes to cover up for "girls gone wild" stories. You can, however, re-read the discussion on this board.
mensactivism.org/articles/04/01/15/0318210.shtml
We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. -- Thomas Jefferson
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by khankrumthebulgar on 06:39 PM January 7th, 2005 EST (#10)
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The Fem Hags & Nags have attempted to make us believe that our behavior is a social construct not hardwired into our Genes. They are losing this battle to biology that has not concerns for PC correct nonsense. Item. Educated Women are giving up careers to become Mothers. The Fem Nags & Hags are screaming. They say "But we fought for you to have careers not to raise Kids". The young Women's response is "We believe the movement is about Choice. And our choice is to have kids and raise them." This includes a former Head of the Stanford Law Review, former Clerk to Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court, an Ex 60 Minutes producer, and another accomplished Business Woman a MBC from Columbia. Make no mistake about it the Lesbians want to distort and punish males. This is not about Social Justice or even equality.
The Male who had Gender Reassignment surgery and was raised as a Girl but never fit in, wanted to be a Male thought like a Male and was eventually given a Male penis is an example of PC Correct thinking that is ruining lives. Damned if I can remain silent and let this harpies screw over my Sons and Grandsons. Time for a Jihad against the Fem Hags & Nags. Have you noticed that NOW's leadership is Lesbian? That hatred of Males is at the core of their group? That they must lie about their numbers to maintain the facade that they are representative of Women in the US? Time to get Medieval with these harpies in my opinion.
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by Anonymous User on 02:50 PM January 9th, 2005 EST (#12)
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Yep.
I have been saying for a long time that it is past time for a revolution, of some kind, against feminists.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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