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by mcc99 on 04:16 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#1)
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"'But, if someone does like women at the automatic level, will they then treat men poorly? We don't know. Either way, we need to be careful about sexism. It is not limited to one form.'
Goodwin's current research is looking at the implicit attitudes toward working mothers in comparison to stay-at-home moms and working fathers."
Um, yes, they will and do treat men poorly relative to women. But will these folks ever acknowledge it? Don't hold your breath. In fact I'm amazed even this much was not suppressed.
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by Anonymous User on 05:43 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#2)
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What was it that the article said about men being "on top"? If men where "on top" there would be more shelters for abused men, and less male-bashing in the media.
What bugs me the most about the article is the fact that it said something about the gender that you like most probably has to do with your experiences with that gender. Um okay...even though most crimes are commited by men, how many men actually do commit horrible crimes? And even if you have been assaulted by a man, since all men are different (despite what some stupid women might say) chances are you won't get assaulted again by a man.
THE MALE-BASHING HAS GOT TO STOP! ROCK ON PRO-MALE ACTIVISTS!!!!! THIS SITE ROCKS!!!!!!
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by Anonymous User on 08:32 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#4)
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Goodwin's current research is looking at the implicit attitudes toward working mothers in comparison to stay-at-home moms and working fathers.
What category is missing in these "gender experts" study? That would be stay-at-home dads. Except there are very few of them, because men have much fewer life choices than women.
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"Goodwin, also a member of Purdue's Women Studies Program"
Well, what else would you expect from such a body of rabid feminist, whose sole mantra is the demonising of Men ?
Doubless, should any examination be done on their 'methodology' employed, these studies will turn out to be yet more of the 'Not worth the paper they are written on' variety.
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by thea on 03:55 AM December 19th, 2004 EST (#6)
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Those poor Boilermakers (Purdue's mascot). Sad that such a wonderful institution like Purdue would have such bigots controlling their news. But feminazis are everywhere. Of course they would put out a so called 'study' like this. They want people to keep thinking that men are evil aggressive neanderthals that must be excluded from all avenues of society. Isn't that what Hitler did to the Jews?
And you would think that a university like Purdue where the student and faculty gender population is 57% Male, these guys wouldn't take this shit. Not that the administration that's clearly in the vice-grip of the rad-fems, would allow a student Men's Rights group. My college won't from what I've been told by a few senior guys who told me how our campus administration shot down their efforts to create a student Men's Rights group. Sad and very unjust. VERY unjust!
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 08:34 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#5)
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Given all the anti-male hate mongering in newspapers, on TV, everywhere, it's hardly surprising that men are negatively stereotyped. What is surprising is that so few people complain about all the anti-male stereotyping.
Sexism is sexism. Stop it NOW!
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by Anonymous User on 01:39 PM December 19th, 2004 EST (#7)
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Useing the media as a tool, this is exactly what the feminists are working towards. AND are sucseeding at.
If everyone hates men, includeing MEN themselves it makes it MUCH easier to put forth the feminist agenda. Between that and chivalrist and wussie-poopie men, we have an up hill battle.
This is why you see me critisize the media so much. It is one of, if not THEE most powerful weapon the fembots have.
They use it literaly for SOCIAL ENGINEERING! And that is NOT an exagerration.
The best way to actualy brainwash people is through repeatition. How many images do we see repeated of men being stupid, evil, opressive, beaten up, shot down, kicked in the balls, degraded, dehumanized, devalued, dominated by their wives, humiliated and so on just in a SINGLE DAY? Compound that by a week, then a month, and so on. These images are ingrained into people's minds. they are hammered into their very subconciousness. untill finaly you begin to see a conditioned response in people of both genders.
Anyone that thinks that all the male-bashing and negetive portrayals of men are harmless, think again!
The feminists argued the very same point when it used to critisize the media for it's portrayals of women. (Sometimes they had a point) They were conserned that the depictions of women as "sex objects" was affecting men's oppinions about women. They were conserned about ANY negative portrayals of women as leading men to disrespect women. Yet the very SAME method that the feminists once decried is now used to devalue and shape attitudes towards men. When feminists are called out about that, I have heard them say that all the male-bashing is just "harmless fun".
Funny they didn't think that when they felt women were portrayed wrongly in the media.
Oh, and one more thing. I might agree margionaly with those feminists that women were portrayed too much as sex objects in the media. But women in entertainment and news were NEVER put through ANYTHING like today's men are being put through. NOTHING.
And lastly, don't forget that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis themselves gained controll of the media in their country and used it EXACTLY in the same way to literaly CREATE public oppinion of the Jewish people.
I am not saying that the ends of male-bashing will ever lead to male haulocaust, but either way the out come WILL be bad. But you never know. The way that anti-male hate is being used, we COULD, possibly see a male haulocaust. I doubt it, but maybe.
After all when we Cherokees got the word that the U.S. government was going to remove our tribe to Oklahoma, alot of us said: It'll never happen..., Well, it did.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 05:12 PM January 18th, 2005 EST (#12)
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You are so far gone that it really doesn't matter much if I commment at all, other than to say that woman, have been thought of as second class citizans for millions of years. WE are finally getting some of our just rewards and a pin head like you comes up a rediculous story like this. Go back to your cave.
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by Anonymous User on 06:32 PM December 19th, 2004 EST (#8)
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"when adults' automatic attitudes are measured, they have more positive feelings about women as a group."
If the reverse were true, than it would seen as mysogny.
If this were true about any minority compared to that of whites it would be seen as racism.
But it is not so bad with men since we all know men are brutes and women everything nice.
The good thing about this is the way people pecieve men will likely only improve. And if does get worse we'll be used to it.
Whereas women now have to live up to the moral superiority that they claim to have and so will fall that much harder when reality sets in to our society.
It is known that if you grew up poor and then later on became rich it is not as bad to go back to being poor. Unlike the person who was always rich but than later became poor and has a new, less privileged lifestyle they must start becoming accustomed to living in.
And that is how I think it will be when the female gender loses it's morally superior status.
I'd rather be hated now, than have that, personally.
p. george
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I was giving thought to this this weekend.
I had a birthday party this weekend and a friend got invited that I haven't really hung out with in a long time. He and I ended up very drunk, arms over each others shoulders over a chocolate fondu (frangelico than chocolate) complaining about our girlfriends (while our girlfriends rolled their eyes).
This guy and I used to hang out a lot. Our relationship is about as intimate as two (straight) guys can have. Its good to have a relationship like that. Every guy should have one.
Don't be a afraid of each other guys.
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by Anonymous User on 01:53 PM December 20th, 2004 EST (#10)
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Okay, but do women like women who like men who like women who like men to like women?
Think about it...,
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 06:37 PM December 20th, 2004 EST (#11)
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Without even reading the article I was fairly certain that I knew the gist. I recently bought a book titled "No more Mr. Nice Guy" and it addresses this very thing, amongst many other - men that do not prefer the company of other men and the reasons why.
Klavius wrote:
This guy and I used to hang out a lot. Our relationship is about as intimate as two (straight) guys can have. Its good to have a relationship like that. Every guy should have one.
Don't be a afraid of each other guys. The author describes a phenomenon called "The nice guy syndrome". Men that sacrifice their own happiness to try and make everyone else happy. Especially the women in their life including Mothers and wives. The author attempts to guide men into taking time out for themselves and taking care of their own happiness including spending more time with "the boys". The object is to reclaim your masculinity which has been lost somewhere along the way. Here is a review from a female psychotherapist to give you a good sense of what to expect. As a therapist, I have seen guilt ridden male clients open up and claim their change process after reading No More Mr. Nice. Guy. The level of guilt and shame imposed by our culture, which views men as bad and women as good, prevents many men from stepping into their lives, becoming successful, and not being manipulated by women. Therapists with such men as clients can find their work moving much faster once clients have read this book. I have had many who read it several times, with much underlining and high lighting. While reading this book, I was reminded of something I already knew; that I don't relate well with other men. I consider this to be a damn shame. I should not feel uncomfortable hanging out and talking to other men, even men I don't even know (like sitting around a bar). This feeling robs me of a important part of my masculinity. Male bonding is one thing that early radical feminists saw as something that should be stamped out QUICKLY. First, get rid of Daddy and then limit your son's activities with other boys. No boy scouts, no football, no John Wayne movies, no male heros, no hunting, no fishing. Anything considered to be a typical male activity should be squelched. Some go so far as to, basically, brain wash their sons or step-sons into the radical feminist philosophy. Men are here to serve women. I'm not shooting from the hip. If you want to know more, go to Amazon.com and look up "No More Mr. Nice Guy". Men must STOP being afraid to be MEN.
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