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More on the AIDS being a disaster for women story
posted by Adam on 01:57 PM December 1st, 2004
News Steven Brown writes "So all along we've believed that AIDS is a disaster for all people. But now it seems it's only catastrophic for women: here "...a generation of African girls is standing on the frontline of the carnage...." Unbelievable..."

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My snide remarks: (Score:1)
by DeepThought (deep.42.thought@gmailEARTH.com) on 05:16 PM December 1st, 2004 EST (#1)
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I predict sympathy for women with none for men, and somehow it's the MAN's fault for women getting STDs.

"Africa is in the death grip of HIV/Aids and a generation of African girls is standing on the frontline of the carnage."

"...a notable event, considering this is the first time a woman has ever been on the front line, as well as possibly the last."

"the plight of the girls and their continued vulnerability is heartbreaking to me."

"...however, the men I could care less about. They're men. They don't have feelings."

"The latest UNAids annual report only confirms what we know - Aids is a female epidemic."

"...a female epidemic that more men are infected with than women."

" The research found that the ABC (Abstinence, Be faithful and use Condoms) strategy - which is a cornerstone of HIV/Aids prevention efforts in many countries - does not protect girls and women."

Really? Sounds like a sound strategy to me, as long as you follow at least one of them...

"It has failed because they have not been allowed by men to practise this strategy."

...and there we go. The part where the men are somehow responsible. It can't be at all the woman's fault for having sex with multiple partners, since we all know that all forms of sex is rape of women.

-DeepThought --- Erase the EARTH to gmail me.
Re:My snide remarks: and mine (Score:1)
by Clancy (long_ponytail@yahoo.com) on 06:17 PM December 1st, 2004 EST (#2)
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While there is evidence that women are more biologically prone to infection....

Does this mean that the end of the mighty XX chromosome is nigh? Perhaps I could lend you a Y. Careful, though, it might masturbate on you.

Re:My snide remarks: (Score:1)
by bro on 08:53 PM December 1st, 2004 EST (#3)
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I've got to ask this: When did the aids movement become a women's movement?

When I first heard on CNN about a womans and girls aids movement in japan and other contries I had to stop and think about when did aids just effect women? Maybe it's another tactic of the 'patrarchy' to subdue women? (Notice my sarcasim)

It just goes to show how some women can take a simple and innocent movement that worked to help both sexes affected by aids and turn it into a gender problem.

-Bro
politically correct hypocrisy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:36 PM December 1st, 2004 EST (#4)
"On the eve of World Aids Day, we should review our prevention strategies and ensure they include measures to expand the freedom of girls and women to negotiate their sexual heterosexual activity, and engage boys and men in discussions about their assumptions regarding their own gender roles."

For years, as the AID's virus ravaged the male, gay community we were told, "AIDs is not a gay disease. It affects all of us." Now after AIDS has spread to the hererosexual community, and infects more and more females, the politically correct crowd is telling us that we should be concerned primarliy about women, and that men are oppressing women with their sexuality, and that the problem is the sexual practices of heterosexual men. Where were these kind of comments when AIDs was exploding through the gay community through their sexual practices? The heterophic bigotry of this group is sickening.

All the politically correct bigots at the united nations should stop playing politics with AIDs and address it on all levels of the human spectrum, "HONESTLY," and they should have begun with where it got its big start, the homosexual community, but oh, now it's okay to bash heterosexual males. As far as examinging gender roles, I suspect this ignorant group of gender bigots still thinks homosexuality is not a problem in regards to the spread of AIDs since it is not mentioned. The united nations can take its gender politics and shove it. The world has no place for hate groups like the united nations that openly lies in such extreme ways.

Sincerely, Ray
Re:politically correct hypocrisy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:32 AM December 2nd, 2004 EST (#5)
that's a good point.

Originally it was all about AIDS not being just a gay disease. That it's not a black disease or white desease. That it's human problem.

And now that women are in the mix ,it becomes a female disease. And the oppression against women by men disease. Even though men are half or more of the worlds AIDS sufferers.

Last year on another site I saw a little post by some "radicals". Possibly it is said they were men against sexism.

The point of there movement against AIDS was to show that "penetration kills". Well it was a no smoking sign yet in the middle was a penis on one side and syringe on the other.
Hence, "penetration kills".

I remember it saying that women were the main sufferers of AIDS. Yet in the link they provided for proof most obivously stated that men were the majority of sufferers. Well I remember it almost being half and half.

They had cut and pasted part of what there link said. Obviously they thought their readers would be stupid to actually go to the link and check things out for themselves.

I swear to god man.......this shit has got to stop I'm tired of it. Let us live in peace for once

p. george
Re:politically correct hypocrisy (Score:2)
by AngryMan (end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk) on 05:32 AM December 2nd, 2004 EST (#6)
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That's a very good point Ray. When only gay men were affected, AIDS was not just a gay problem, it was everyone's problem, but now that some women are affected, AIDS is caused by heterosexuality, one of the bad things that men do to women, even though most of the sufferers are men.

I wouldn't make the mistake of criticising the UN. This is another good example of how radical feminists infiltrate existing good causes, charities, and aid organisations, and then turn them to their own purposes from the inside. It allows them to appropriate not only budgets and institutional machinery, but also the organisations's respectability in the public imagination. People think that if the UN is saying it, or the Red Cross, or the government, or the BBC, then somehow it must be OK. Feminists are good at using these organisations as their mouthpieces. The UN is just as much as victim of this as anyone else.

It shows the degree of cynicism of the feminist movement, that they are willing to turn a human tragedy like HIV/AIDS into cheap propaganda. This does not help sufferers, in fact it confuses the issue and makes the fight against AIDS more difficult.

We should be asking:-
1 What is the relationship between HIV and poverty, and why is Africa so poor?
2 Why are anti-HIV drugs so expensive that African nations cannot afford them?
3 If education helps, then is poverty not an issue in preventing people from getting educated?

If we continue to studiously ignore the majority of sufferers just because they are heterosexual males, then the problem of HIV will never go away. HIV is a global human problem, and mass conversion to lesbianism is not the answer.

I am disgusted that these spoiled middle-class Western feminists lounge around in their air conditioned homes pronouncing about how people should behave in the Third World. Not one of them has ever gone hungry for a day in her entire life. As far as I am concerned, feminists are parasitic vermin.

Feminism will continue as long as there is money to be made from hating men.
Re:politically correct hypocrisy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:07 AM December 2nd, 2004 EST (#7)
"I wouldn't make the mistake of criticising the UN. This is another good example of how radical feminists infiltrate existing good causes, charities, and aid organisations,"

While I think the u.n. has some other very serious problems, I do have to agree that the radical/gender feminists have infiltrated a lot of organizations, and tainted them with their horrible anti-male prejudice. Unicef, and Amnesty International are two others that appear to have been seriously tainted.

I see this being carried out all the time through the taxpayer funded women's studies program on the college campus where I work. Flyers for events originated in the women's studies dept. list other organizations joining them in their activities. I've even seen the American Red Cross used in one of their campaigns. Somehow women's studies anit-male prejudice takes on an "air of legitimacy" when they hide behind other organizations that have had a good reputation. It's as if people have become aware of the horrors of radical/gender feminism and are avoiding it, but then are being sucked in by the other organizations women's studies is using as a "front" for their fraud and prejudice. Sadly this tactic has gotten the radical/gender feminist movement/women's studies programs a lot of mileage.

women's studies

Sincerely, Ray

Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item(s). All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
Again, this is nothing new (Score:1)
by MAUS on 06:45 PM December 2nd, 2004 EST (#8)
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At one point in time seven out of ten adults i Europe had syphillis...the results were equally lethal, the time to mortallity was similar, people knew darned well that it was transmitted by unprotected sex....and the whole thing was rife with urban myths and various people using the dead and the dying as a soap box.

I worked as an aids volunteer since the time people were afraid it might be as contageous as SARS...I have seen and heard many little mini-epidemics of insanity and non-sense pass through the media about it. My prediction is not good. People just like sex too much to give it up...abstanence campaigns never stopped syphillis...effective treatments did.

Really though ( tongue in cheek) the women of Africa have nothing to fear as long as they refrain from unprotected anal intercourse with a green monkey, and they really don't need any genius with a women's studies degree to tell them that.
Re:Again, this is nothing new (Score:1)
by Ragtime on 11:28 AM December 3rd, 2004 EST (#9)
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MAUS wrote, "women of Africa have nothing to fear as long as they refrain from unprotected anal intercourse with a green monkey"

...and if they DID, why, it'd all be the fault of that evil, oppressing monkey.

The Uppity Wallet

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