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Since the prize was first handed out in 1901, only nine women have won it.
It's a conspiracy, I tell you! A conspiracy! ;-)
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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I klicked the small picture to enlarge. Holy sh*t, I fell down to the floor and stayed there for almost an hour in complete shock.
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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by Anonymous User on 01:01 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#4)
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Yes, she is hideous, but is that really relevant?
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by Anonymous User on 01:20 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#5)
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Could be.
As she is relevently hideous.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I think Groucho Marx may be an ancestor of mine, or something, I don't know. (^_^)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 01:30 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#7)
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I went back and looked. She's not THAT bad, I guess.
I shouldn't talk about others being ugly. I'm pretty hard on the eyes, myself.
In fact I was such an ugly baby, that when I was born the doctor slapped my mom instead of me.
I'm so ugly they rub tree branches on my face to make 'ugly sticks'.
I'm so ugly I scare BLIND people.
There'd have to be TWO of me to get any uglier.
But siriously...,
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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You're a trip!
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 01:44 PM October 8th, 2004 EST (#25)
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I don't know why, I just get in silly moods, sometimes. I think, occasionaly, I get possessed by the spirit of Bob Hope, or something.
Oh, well. The men's movement shouldn't be ALL 'gloom and doom'. I think that's one of the biggest things that makes us so different from the militant feminist groups.
We actually take the time to LAUGH, some times.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 05:50 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Okay. I'm ROTFL!!!
Warble
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Yes, it is relevant. Looking at that face answers the very relevant question "What does feminism look like?"
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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Oh by the way Bert, Feminism is *FUGLY!!!*
Fugly=Fucking Ugly
A very immature comment oh but what the hell. Here's another one......"Feminism is *SO* ugly, it fell out of the Ugly Tree and hit every damn branch on the way down!"
Oh man was that juvenile! SO IMMATURE!!! But it felt SO good. But seriously, I have NEVER seen an attractive or even human looking feminist (hint-hint).
But this just goes to show you that the Nobel Peace Prize is NO longer a respectable honor. Any damn famous person--whether they be famous for good deeds or being a terrorist--could win the award.
Hell, even that terrorist sympathizer Yasser Arafat won the award. Who cares if you win the Nobel Peace Prize. They give out the award to people resembling Hitler in ideology.
Fuck the Nobel Peace Prize.
Sorry Mister Nobel. I'm so sorry that you're award intended for promoting goodwill and enlightenment has been perverted by idiots and political puppets.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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The funny thing is, I never heard of that Jelinek woman before, neither did anybody else. But now on Dutch TV a whole bunch of feminists is telling how well they have known her, how famous she is and how good her books are.
By the way, she looks a little like Arafat, but he looks better. ;-)
Bert
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by Anonymous User on 04:02 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#11)
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And her name;, "Jelinek"
Does that mean her neck is made out of jelly?
(I know her BRAIN is...,)
Sorry, guys. I'm just in one of those moods, today.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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You are letting your partizn politics show by bad mouthing Arafat like that....he doesn't need a shave nearly as bad as she does.
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Adolf Hitler was nominated for it, and Henry Kissinger actually won it, so it can't be taken too seriously!
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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by Anonymous User on 02:53 PM October 8th, 2004 EST (#27)
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HITLER????
Whoa, Any credibility they HAD with me is out the ol' window with that little factoid.
I had no IDEA Hitler was nominated for it.
Man, the things one learns here...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 10:51 AM October 9th, 2004 EST (#34)
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"Adolf Hitler was nominated for it,"
What year was that? What was he nominated for? I hope it wasn't the Noble Peace prize. I would guess in 1933 or 1934 he may have fooled enough people to get a nomination.
Ray
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Hitler was nominated in 1938 by Gertrude Stein. Check these links:
http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/jews/ah_for_peacepriz e.htm
http://www.doctor-horsefeathers.com/archives/00005 4.php
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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Just for trivial pursuit type interest Alfred Nobel stipulated that the prize was NEVER to be awarded to a mathematician.His wife had an affair with one and Alfred considered them the scum of the earth. As far as I know the only mathematician ever to be awarded it was the fellow depicted in "A Beautifull Mind". Hmmm, perhaps we should consider a boycott of dynamite. I'm sure the Home Security folks would breath a sigh of relief.
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Yes, she is hideous, but is that really relevant?
Sure it is. With all the men trying to beat the ugly off of her, it's no wonder violence against women is her biggest complaint!
:)
BRY
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by Anonymous User on 12:49 PM October 9th, 2004 EST (#36)
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"Q. Yes, she is hideous, but is that really relevant?"
"A. Sure it is. With all the men trying to beat the ugly off of her, it's no wonder violence against women is her biggest complaint!"
If that's the best you can do for a definition of domestic violence maybe you should spend more time seeing the ways that men are abused and ignored by our legal system when they are actually physically battered and worse. You should also see the living hell's they go through when they are falsely accused of domestic violence.
America used to be a free country where physical appearance was allowed to be discussed by men in the days before the radical/gender feminist plague of heterophobia championed by the domestic violence industry, the sexual harassment industry, and women’s studies programs on college campuses.
Today in women's studies courses on college campuses females routinely and openly malign and vilify all things male without even allowing any dissenting opinion, yet there are those in that movement that hypocritically, secretly cling to hunk images of what men are to be, while belittling those who don't come up to their fantasies.
Freedom of speech is now being quashed in California if anyone even dares to say anything that may "intimidate" the poor, privileged, pampered female. Sheila Kuehle has deemed criticism of females to be hate speech/hate crime if a female is made to feel uncomfortable or intimidated and it is left up to the female to determine what is uncomfortable or intimidated.
It appears to me that in your chivalrous world the poor, pampered, privileged female is abused if anyone says anything about her, but guys as usual can be abused to high heaven, sent to places like Iraq, blown to pieces, killed maimed, etc. and nobody cares.
Wake up and figure out who’s really being oppressed and who the oppressor is,
Such hypocrisy, (“no wonder violence against women is her biggest complaint”) makes me want to puke!
(click) the ultimate indicator of oppression
Additionally, men are over 80% of the homeless, around 93% of the prison population, lead in all categories in the 10 leading causes of death by disease, etc., etc., etc.. If anything is cliché’ it is the oppressed woman, victimized woman hype that is presented in the writings of this radical/gender feminist clichéd’, and undeserving author. “Winner of the Noble prize for Literature,” balderdash, I wouldn’t give her the prize out of a box of Cracker Jacks for the maudlin inanity presented in her radical/gender feminist tripe.
Ray
Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item(s). All the info I’m trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
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Sure, her appearance is relevant from an aesthetic standpoint, and to whether or not one would have romantic relations with her, but for the mens' movement?
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"Q. Yes, she is hideous, but is that really relevant?"
"A. Sure it is. With all the men trying to beat the ugly off of her, it's no wonder violence against women is her biggest complaint!"
Ray complained about my response to another's post (shown above) by saying...
"If that's the best you can do for a definition of domestic violence maybe you should spend more time seeing the ways that men are abused and ignored by our legal system when they are actually physically battered and worse. You should also see the living hell's they go through when they are falsely accused of domestic violence.
Say what? First off, that was a joke, Ray. So please lighten up. And the bitch really is hideous, which I feel is relevant. Too many dateless Saturday nights can turn a woman bitter, and make her hate men (or hate them more). The next thing you know, she-dog is taking out her feelings of lonliness and rejection by writing books condemming all men everywhere. "...sexual violence against women as the actual template for our culture." my big, fat ass! Her next tome should be titled, "Why I Can't Get A Date", by She-dog.
Then, my brother Ray serves this up....
"America used to be a free country where physical appearance was allowed to be discussed by men in the days before the radical/gender feminist plague of heterophobia championed by the domestic violence industry, the sexual harassment industry, and women’s studies programs on college campuses.
A free country where physical appearance was allowed to be discussed by men before Ray came along. So, ah...why'd you jump on my ass then, Ray? It's a free country, right? And the bitch is hideous. Go take a look if you don't believe me!
Let me let you in on something. I was actually going to post this awhile back, but was too lazy. I emailed Progressive Insurance to voice my concern over an ad they've been running showing a smarmy bitch using a voo-doo doll to torture her ex-boyfriend. At the end of the commercial, she uses pliers on his genitals and we see him writhe in obvious genital-scrunching pain. Hardy-Har-Har. Fuck Geico, their spokes-lizard never tortures anybody's genitalia...nah, Progressive's where it's at!
So, as I said, I emailed them my manly outrage, and their Customer Care-Bitch responded with the following:
Dear Gbrycki,
Thank you for taking the time to provide this feedback concerning our television
advertisements.
The intent of our advertising campaign is to show, in a humorous, entertaining
manner, how Progressive customers expect the rest of the world to work like
Progressive - service beyond what you would expect from an insurance company.
We apologize if our advertising offended you in any way.
Your feedback will be forwarded directly to our advertising department. We
value your input and will take your comments into serious consideration as we
develop our advertising plans.
Sincerely,
Marie K. Weaver
Progressive Internet Service Specialist
webmaster@progressive.com
Nice, huh...in "a humorous, entertaining
manner"...some guy getting his dick ripped off by a voo-doo pyscho-bitch.
I emailed them back, asking "If the situation was reversed, would any of
you think a commercial where a man bitch-slaps a woman to be humorous and entertaining?"
I recieved no response.
Anyhow...
Towards the end of his post, Ray states:
Such hypocrisy, (“no wonder violence against women is her biggest complaint”) makes me want to puke!
Such hypocrisy indeed, Ray! But hey, whatever! Sorry ol' BRY turned your tummy. Try an Alka-Seltzer. Plop plop, fizz fizz, oh what a relief it is. Hope you feel better. Me, I'm going to take a rest, my arm's tired from trying to beat the ugly off my mother-in-law.
BRY
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by Anonymous User on 05:42 PM October 9th, 2004 EST (#40)
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"Say what? First off, that was a joke, Ray. So please lighten up.
Well in that case, "...never mind."
Ray
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Well in that case, "...never mind."
Ray
OK...glad we're cool, Ray. Maybe my sense of humour is a bit on the stoopid side, but I'd never advocate really harming a woman (they are the weaker sex, after all).
Plus, I was a little put off by my exchange with Customer Care from Progressive Insurance.
Later, Bro!
BRY
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OK guys, I was the one who started with all this in the topic "complete shock". I didn't realize that my joke could lead to discord and I assure you it was not meant to do. So please accept my apology.
Personally I don't give a shit whether the dyke is hideous. What me brought to that joke is the fact that some old ugly tart, who probable never got laid and most certainly never experienced any violence, gets the nobel price for writing books about male violence. If a good looking young women was raped and she would write a book about her experiences, maybe I could have some respect and it would be fine with me if she got a price. But who the hell would rape an old ugly bat like that Jelinek woman. And who the hell would like to beat up an old empty potato bag?
Again, it did not mean to bring discord to this board, but I don't let the feminists take away my humor, they're just asking for it.
Bert
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by Anonymous User on 01:43 PM October 10th, 2004 EST (#46)
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Well, if my DOG had a face like Jelinek's, I'd shave his butt and teach him to walk backwards.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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No problem, Bert. Ray and I are cool, no problemo.
And I truly believe what sours alot of these feministas towards men is the fact that they LOVE us but we just never loved 'em back.
If they should be pissed at anyone it ought to be their parents. It's a sad fact, but heredity is all, and I'm not the one they inherited the ugly gene from. How insensitive we all are, to not be able to see through all the layers and layers of fat, past the wrinkles and crows feet, nicotene-stained teeth and moustaches, into the truly beautiful hearts and souls of these lumbering dulldaggers. Oh, if only!
Has anyone ever seen a really, really good looking feminista? 'Cause I know, I sure haven't.
BRY
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by Anonymous User on 12:47 PM October 11th, 2004 EST (#48)
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I know I'm going out on a limb when I say this, but, back when I cared about finding that "special someone" I REALLY didn't care too much what she looked like.
As long as she bathed and had a decent mind and heart, I would have been content with that.
Beauty is, indeed transitory. But true love for another is forever.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 04:08 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#12)
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>"So sexual violence against women is "the
actual template for our culture.""
Appearantly she doesn't watch much television or go to the movies much.
By the way, in case anyone missed it go to this website about the media and feminists. it's an interesting read.
Here's the Link;
http://www.freewebs.com/mensrights/sex4.htm
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 05:21 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#14)
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When we talk about "deranged" feminists, are we including those who truly believe in equal rights, such as those concerned about Afghani women being allowed by their families to vote? Since we have roughly equal rights in developed nations, feminists who focus on those countries must be radical because their cause must take the society beyond equality to make special privileges for women, and bizarre punitive laws agains men. I heard, for example, that some Northern Europen country was considering making it illegal for men to urinate standing up in public restrooms. There are many women who call themselves feminists who believe that that type of thing is absurd, and probably resent the bad name given to them by the radicals as they (the egalitarian feminists) continue to campaign for equal rights across the world.
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by Anonymous User on 06:56 PM October 7th, 2004 EST (#16)
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The Nobel Prize for Literature is not for the squeamish. It is awarded to those who have "pushed the envelope" in language and the art of using words. True, some of the women who won the prize earlier last century may now seem passe (Lagerlof, Undset,Buck - although Buck can also be seen as "political" - The Good Earth - Pre-Revolutionary China) - but these were "cutting edge" writers in their time. And few would quarrel with the worth of such women as Grazia Deledda. The later ones have perhaps indeed been more openly "political" -Gardimor (S/A Apartheid) Morrison (Black American Racism) Szymborska (Post Communist Eastern Europe) and now Jelinek - Marxist-Feminism. So what? Theirs are stories that had to be told; uncomfortable stories, uncomfortable styles, uncomfortable judgments - perhaps - but, again, so what? That's the function of art - to make one sit up and take notice - and if it hurts - again: so what?
If anyone doesn't like the judges' choice - who cares! The Nobel Literature Prize is not for chick-lit or populist scriblers. It is not sex-selective, there is no Nobel Prize for Lady Novelists - it aims for what is the best and sometimes the best is by a woman. If that sit badly with some men - so be it. It's an open competition, peer reviewed. It's about serious art. It's above board. It's non-sexist.
And anywy, has anyone of those who posted actually read anything by her? Had heard of her before she won the NP? Read her work in the original language or relied on translation? Seen, read or listened to her plays - both for stage and radio? Maybe some. And what have her looks got to do with her art? Not every feminist can be a Naomi Wolf!
You see, that's what wrong with so many guys - and dolls - like some who post here: they pick up a story, say "wow, here's a woman who...." and, with mind and both eyes firmly closed and both ears firmly stopped, they jump - both feet first - into the deep end of an argument and make fools of themselves.
Get real and spend your time and effort doing something that matters - like working for men's rights and freedom for all!
Neale
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I know it is cowardly, but I decided to post anonymously because my first post on this site was met with justifiable hostility. I had decided to make my re-entry into the site with my username on a less controversial note in order to avoid a flame war, and then proceed to use my name in all my posts after that. I did not intend to be antagonistic after the initial labeled message, but I thought that even the slightest lack of conformity attached to my old name, known only for antagonism, would incite those who recognized it to judge the post too harshly.
But now I realize that that's all silly. Feel free to disagree, anyone, but I am not a troll.
"When we talk about "deranged" feminists, are we including those who truly believe in equal rights, such as those concerned about Afghani women being allowed by their families to vote? Since we have roughly equal rights in developed nations, feminists who focus on those privileged nations often resort to radicalism because with equality accomplished, they often resort to making special privileges for women, and bizarre punitive laws agains men. I heard, for example, that some Northern Europen country was considering making it illegal for men to urinate standing up in public restrooms. There are many women who call themselves feminists who believe that that type of thing is absurd, and probably resent the bad name given to them by the radicals as they (the egalitarian feminists) continue to campaign for equal rights across the world"
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I'm talking about current times. During the Taliban's reign, families allowing women to vote or not was obviously a non-issue.
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But now I realize that that's all silly. Feel free to disagree, anyone, but I am not a troll.
Live and learn. It amazes me how many people think the best way to introduce themselves to a group is to tell the group how wrong they (the group) are and how they need to improve their attitudes. Then they're astonished and indignant when met with hostility. (I don't know if that was what your first post was like, but it sounds probable.)
There are many women who call themselves feminists who believe that that type of thing is absurd, and probably resent the bad name given to them by the radicals as they (the egalitarian feminists) continue to campaign for equal rights across the world"
Have you ever sounded these "reasonable" feminists out on men's issues, such as those summarized at the 2004 Men's Conference? In my experience, they toe the party line and battle to retain women's privileges in these serious areas. If you have had different experiences, I would be glad to hear them but, so far, these "reasonable feminists" seem to me largely a figment of your imagination.
Larry
ADULT: What you are once you've run out of excuses.
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As you may know, there are all sorts of feminism, radical feminism, marxistic feminism, lipstick feminsm, to name a few. There is one thing they have in common, they are all concerned about equal rights. But believe me, they are only concerned about their own equal rights.
Not so long ago I had a discussion with some female members of Amnesty International. The discussion was about tortured women in countries in the East, Africa and other countries. I told them that men are tortured in these countries as well. The answer they gave me was, "It is not in our interest to be concerned about tortured men, our interest are tortured women only."
What does this tell us? The answer is, whatever feminism is or however they call themselves, feminism is definitive not man-friendly.
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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by Anonymous User on 02:00 PM October 8th, 2004 EST (#26)
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Bert.
Those women from 'Amnesty International' did what MOST feminists do. They contradict themselves. They claim they are for equality, but then say they "only care about females being tortured". If they were REALLY for equality they would care that BOTH sexes were being tortured, and be trying to end it for ALL, not just WOMEN.
This is typical feminist hypocricy.
Have you ever read "ANIMAL FARM" by George Orwell? If not, see if you can get a copy somehow. It illustrates ALOT of the mentality of feminists.
"All animals are equal.
...but some are more
equal than others..." (from the book)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Thundercloud wrote: Have you ever read "ANIMAL FARM" by George Orwell? If not, see if you can get a copy somehow. It illustrates ALOT of the mentality of feminists.
"All animals are equal.
...but some are more
equal than others..." (from the book")"
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Hey Thundercloud,
I never read that book, but I know the quote very well. It could be written by feminists.
Bert
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Because some people choose to focus on womens' issues it does not necessarily mean they do not care about mens' issues, just as a physicist respects the work of biologists without comprehensive training or dedicated work to that field.
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Jas0n of Thebes wrote: "just as a physicist respects the work of biologists without comprehensive training or dedicated work to that field."
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That's right Jas0n. But if the physicist fails in his life, would he the biologist have to be punished for that? I don't think so.
Brainwashing is a tricky thing, because the one who is brainwashed doesn't know he is. If you believe feminists do care about men's issues, I am afraid that's what happened to you.
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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by Anonymous User on 11:47 AM October 9th, 2004 EST (#35)
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Bert.
I agree, whole heartedly.
The time when feminism was about EQUALITY is long past.
(If it even ever WAS about equality, at all. And there are those of us here who have their doubts.)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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