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From the article --- "A loving, faithful younger man by your side definitely contributes to the good life. Lets face it; women live longer than men. So, pairing with a younger man can put you ahead of the curve if the relationship is long-term. Now thats a bonus."
Wow! Hope he has a pre-nup and she's got her casket picked out!
"Ahead of the curve...?
Is the author referring to her expanding cellulite tissue?
Interesting that this fem-bard has nothing whatsoever to say about the "special" man she supposedly values.
Just another pop-media parasite...
Hope she's got lubricant... for her ailing mind!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 06:35 PM September 6th, 2004 EST (#2)
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Lighten up and keep your powder dry!
This is a light-hearted article, putting down that type of men and that type of women - equally and equally "mildly" mercilessly.
Toy-boys shacking up with over-the-hill, post-menopausal once-were celebs, still wealthy femmes are as old as the hills. They used to be called gigolos and be object of scorn, fun, mirth,whatever. As were - still are - the women. Stuff for Comedy, French Farces, Sexual Satire. Pulp-media fodder.
Learn to laugh.
Cameron
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In times past, some younger men did marry older women.
However, the older women were usually rich. Their first husbands would die (perhaps because they were older than their brides at the time of marriage) and they would inherit property and money.
George Washington and Shakespeare both did this. I didn't think either of them had much success on having children, though.
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Well here we go again for the third time with the older women younger man bullshit. Kind of reminds me of a stubborn sewer line that keeps wanting to back up even after it's been routed a few times. The stupid ass media can pound this all they want but not a damm thing is going to change, it will always be younger women, older men. And what's this crap about younger men having great bodies? Is that universal? I doubt that at least not from what I have observed. Not to brag but a lot of guys in their 20's would kill to have a body like myself. Yes I do have 6 pack abs and basically look like an athlete. One of my favorite activities during the summer is to mow the lawn shirtless and count the women driving by checking me out. And by the way I am 54 years old, I know I should have a beer gut that hangs out a couple of feet, be wearing hearing aids and generally look like shit according to all the stereotypes that corporate america would like us to believe in order for them to reduce risk in their business. Sorry but I do not smoke or drink and have been working out for the past 20 years so I have paid the price and still am. Sorry about the bragging but stereotypes are real sore point for me, I will not tolorate being judged on the basis of being assigned to some group but insist on being judged as an individual.
I have to agree with the one poster who said we should laugh at this.
Pete in Nebraska
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Sorry, but as a couple of readers have suggested, I don't find this funny at all.
I have a daughter and a son. And if I caught my daughter with a man old enough to be her dad, or even close to it, well let's just say gramps will be wearing his balls for earrings. Now if it were the other way around with my son, I'd be just as livid for exactly the reasons that were pointed out in the article. He's a toy, not a person, a semi-useful article. And if he ever has trouble getting it up for the old bag,(once he's sobered up) he'll get traded up faster than she'd trade up her Benz. And probably be left penniless. And I'm talking about HIS money not hers. Leave us not forget how she came upon her fortune in the first place.
And just because he's young doesn't mean she will have any mercy on him. Once she's done with him, she'll have his young mind warped into thinking it was HIS fault.
This is not funny guys, and it happens allot more than you might think...
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Used to be, the steroetypes were clear-cut.
Older guys covet younger trophie wives/girlfriends for their sexuality.
Younger females covet older guys for their wallets.
Now this older gals want young stud-muffins theory puts a different spin on it...
The older woman (presumably financially set up via a successful divorce extortion or the obligatory earlier mortality of her ex-hubby) wants a young dude for his sexuality.
And the younger stud wants her for... what?
A nice weekly allowance? Access to the country club? The gratitude of a sexually starved mommie figure?
Somehow the dots don't connect...
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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I have dated women young enough to be my daugher. They pursued me, not the other way around. Not for my money either. No one ever attempted to make me wear my balls as earnings.
Pete in Nebraska
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by Anonymous User on 07:15 PM September 7th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Cheer up!
Things are getting worse, mates!
More fun!
Ivana's at it!
Go to:
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10 693916%255E13780,00.html
This is "Reality TV!
Only in America!
Where else?
Oh, Pete from Nebraska - I don't know who said it first but "which man would want to be married to a woman old enough to be his wife?" still sounds true enough - to me, at any rate.
Cameron
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Cameron
I have never heard that one. Cool saying for sure and I am going to remember it forever.
Pete in Nebraska
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by Anonymous User on 11:08 PM September 7th, 2004 EST (#16)
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Pete,
Be my guest!
Cameron
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jesus
do they even read this shit before they post it?
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I don't think this is just 'funny' as one correspondent suggests, because the humour is one-way. If you saw the opposite article - old man/young woman - it wouldn't be regarded as a joke, it would be regarded as exploitative. We need to have consistency.
There is another interesting point to make here - according to classical stereotypes, it is always the man who is exploiting the woman. If the man is younger, then he is a gigolo after her money - economically exploiting the woman - but if the man is older, then he is sexually exploiting the woman. Men are always in the wrong.
At least this article was breaking that mould, but it wasn't offering us anything better. It is deeply cynical. It openly advocates that women should be exploitative and manipulative. One of the attractions of younger men is that they are 'malleable'. Imagine the opposite statement - One of the attractions of younger women is that they are malleable. Doesn't sound quite so funny, does it?
Light attitude? 'He has more free time and fewer responsibilites', but I'm sure she will soon put a stop to that. The man's time is just a resource to be exploited.
Baggage light? No discussion of where men might get their emotional problems from - in my experience they generally get them from women. If he doesn't have any at the beginning of the relationship, it sounds like he certainly will by the end.
However, this article is really quite pathetic - a kind of emotional porn, a revenge fantasy for middle-aged women who feel intimidated by younger women. Look at some of the things she advocates - a 'faithful' younger man will take you on picnics? How sad.
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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I am a 48 Year old Grandfather of 5 Grandsons, but thanks to Genetics look 10 years younger. I worked out faithfully for several years and looked early 30s. I still get hit on but here is the issue. What is marriage? If it is companionship having someone near your age means they are more likely to share similar life experiences. If it is sex why bother with Marriage? Marriage has become an Adhesion Contract the only one where Women are rewarded for breaking it. Marry Foreign Women and forget the Nags and the Hags in the US. I am tired of the spoiled self absorbed US Women.
Khan
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""thanks to Genetics look 10 years younger""
Genetics?, u mean hormons?.
"Marriage has become an Adhesion Contract the only one where Women are rewarded for breaking it. Marry Foreign Women and forget the Nags and the Hags in the US. I am tired of the spoiled self absorbed US Women."
So obvious!!.
Take care!!
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Nice to see I'm not the only other middle age guy who is a big fitness believer. As for marriage, even in my 20's, never appealed to me. A few months out of college got hired by the Federal Government. Did quite a bit of traveling for uncle sam. The married guys were always sweating their promotions because they needed the additional money. Always problems at home of some sort. It quickly became obvious that most married guys were working their asses off. Never appealed to me and after hanging out at this site, no way in hell.
However I must add that I also know a lot of hard working women, some are carrying most of the load. I discuss the marriage issue with a friend in Colorado frequently, he lost his wife to illness back in the early 90's. He says if you find the right one there is nothing better on earth. But he adds that finding the right one is like filling a 50 gallon drum with green jelly beans and one black one and then sticking your hand in and hoping to pull out the black jelly bean after the whole drum has been thoroughly mixed.
Pete in Nebraska
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by Anonymous User on 09:30 AM September 8th, 2004 EST (#17)
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Groucho Marx said marriage should be the exception to the rule, in any case winning the big lottery price is great, but it would be absurd to plan one`s life taking for granted that this will happen, only an idiot will do it, but we are expected to belive this, not only that, we are supposed to believe that
it is a necessary condition to be happy, pufff!!.
PD: Supposing that having a "good" marriage equates
to winning the lottery wich is too much supposition.
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by Anonymous User on 01:47 PM September 8th, 2004 EST (#18)
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Even for an indian I've never had much luck at gambleing or games of chance.
So I just don't play at all.
I've always been better off, that way.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Wise men!!
Besides gambling are zero sum games, what one wins is exactly what other lose, but FEMINIST MARRIAGE is a ZERO SUM GAME in wich men know before hand that they are going to lose, (wich some exceptions), so what kind of men play this game?, .........PATHETIC LOSERS, that afterwards cry, complain, become mad, puffffffff, but is even more pathetic than that, some of them while beeing married are proud gamblers and even dare to critizice others for not playing like them, i can only feel contemp for them, they got what they asked for.
Take care!!
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BreaK
By being so contemptuous of these men you are alienating them. Most men want a family and children, they do not see the danger until too late.Fathers who love their children are not pathetic losers. Many men do not see what is going on, many men here at one point did not see, including my husband. Both of us ran screaming the first time we came here after reading posts similar in nature to yours, but luckily we came back and there were others who were more realistic who helped us realize that the fanatics are the minority.
Now perhaps you don't care, but the men's movement as a whole sure does care, and should. We are nothing without each other, and separation is why the men's movement has been so difficult to get off the ground. We NEED each other, and that includes men who are married, divorced, and single, and women who support them. By treating them like idiots you are no better than Everybody Loves Raymond. Perhaps instead of criticizing people you could put your obviously vast amount of time and energy into productive means, like Ray does. Put your money where your mouth is.
The Biscuit Queen
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"By being so contemptuous of these men you are alienating them. Most men want a family and children, they do not see the danger until too late."
True, but sometimes is the best way to awake people, the same ideas can be transmitted in many different shapes.
On the other hand it is not that men are idiots, is that they have been conditioned to be serfs, brought up in the morals of what Nietche called the Slave Nation morals , i was amazed to see that my female friends saw my points inmediatly but my male friends took much, much longer and some even hesitated, when was so obvious.
Well now i understand, if one were telling southern blacks that how they were being treated by society was outrageous, one would have found that most did not saw it that way, that it would take time to make them understand that this was unacceptable, afterall their grandfathers were slaves, their father were slaves, and they themselves are slaves, that is how it has always been, however just mentioning the white masters about reversing the situation and themselves would have gotten outraged.
Same happens with women and men, i just ask a friend would you marry a man, that makes less money than you, or no even work at all, knowing that whenever he wants to, he can kick you out or your house, keep the children, steal your salary, imprision you if you don`t keep up with your slave labor, etc, etc.
End of the conversation, just took one millisecond, in that time they understand exactly why i will never sign that contract.
Same about having children, would you have a child knowing that you will have no right to rise him/her, you will recieve no aid from the goverment, no tax cuts, (that is absolutly no reason to have a child), but knwing that having it would mean losing your house, 60% of your income after taxes, having to stand that a man becomes a parasite that lives at your expense, and eventualy going to jail?, geeeeeee!!, no way!!.
Again end of the conversation, if they are decent people will admmit that is totally unfair, that men have no reproductive rights, and that there are absolutly no reason to have children or getting married, under this circumstances, au contraire, there are powerfull reasons not to, to avoid the human degradation of the slave labor, avoid permanent poverty, and prision time.
But men, men donīt get it, it takes time, and repetition, they are slow learners, but the reason is obvious, women have the upper hand, they have been educated that way, juts mention them to turn the tables, to walk on men shoes and they become dizzy, it would make them vomit, however for men that is their reality, that is how they have been brought up, so they see it "normal".
But the first step to solve a problem is to recognize that there is a problem, and a lot of men have no even arrived to this point, so the way i make my points is not with the intention of alienate anyone but to shake them strong and make them open their eyes and see reality as it is.
" Both of us ran screaming the first time we came here after reading posts similar in nature to yours"
Well diversity is a fact of live, discussing how mild or strong must be the messages is a waste of time, there is no a best way, it depends, for some strong messages makes them react, others get sacared, anyhow if one is interested about an issue will not stop after reading something that might find to harsh or offensive.
"We NEED each other, and that includes men who are married, divorced, and single, and women who support them."
Correct!!, and if my messeges makes some men rethink their situation, good, that is what i pretend. By the way i have divorced friends, and married ones, the pourpose of the posts is not to offend anyone but to point how unfair and absurd are certain things.
Trying to make points trying bothering no one, or not hurting someones feelings, is stupid, and usually is the tactic feminits use to silence men, donīt say that you are making me feel bad stuff.
"By treating them like idiots you are no better than Everybody Loves Raymond. "
I do not know who this guy is, and really i donīt care.
"Perhaps instead of criticizing people you could put your obviously vast amount of time and energy into productive means,... "
No comment!! pufff.
I just say what i think, if you donīt like it, i understand, but i really do not care, if one should only say things that everybody likes no one could ever speak, nosense. On the other hand the menīs movemten is very eclectic, so there are different approaches, different focus i just give mine.
And i repeat the idea is not to insult but to awake, how many times single young men, or just single men, are called selfish becouse they do not want to commit, (commit to slavery what else?), from other men, well i say that given what feminits marriage means, men that sign that contract are not very smart, thats what i think, should i refrain to tell this?, why?.
About trying not to offend anyone and being polite, this is the opinion of Angry harry:
"Where is the men's movement when you need it?
Well, of course, it is growing all the time. But because most of the men involved with the movement are far too busy trying to be polite and inoffensive towards those who walk all over them, progress does remain somewhat slower than could otherwise be the case."
But anyhow those are my ideas, those are my opinions and that way is how i wanted to express them, some will agree others donīt, as everything else in live.
Take care!!
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