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The girls were simply rebelling against the family partriarch, in this case the grandfather. I mean, you can't blame them for killing someone who oppressed them by being male. It's too bad that grandma got killed in their zeal for freedom. Unlike boys, they need our compassion .
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by Anonymous User on 10:44 AM August 8th, 2004 EST (#8)
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by Anonymous User on 08:07 PM August 6th, 2004 EST (#2)
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These "You go girls" just commited murder, but I don't think it's covered under the Violence Against Women Act, because it wasn't "intimate partner violence" (unless they were having lesbian sexual relations with Grandma too). Wives, girlfriends, Husbands, boyfriends are all the categories that get counted under VAWA.
According to the FBI 14,054 people were murdered in 2002, Table 2.5.
click FBI
In 2002, 3,251 women were murdered, and 1445 of those were killed by an intimate, Table 2.12.
That's right 10,779 men were killed in 2002, but only 287 of those were killed by an intimate.
As one virulently feminist d.v. advocate told me about those 10,779 male victims, "Yea, but most of them were killed by other men."
My reply, "I don't think that matters to all those dead male victims, only you."
I guess one really has to wonder why we are so concerned about violence against women that we spend billions on shelters and programs for women to have a safe place, while men who are three times more likely to be murdered get only prison and the grave.
I have no doubts whatsoever that domestic violence advocates will find these two murdering beasts in jail and turn the whole thing around to fit the feminist victim agenda as post #1 sarcastically points out. I'm getting a little sarcastic about domestic violence law and women's special priveleges myself.
Lastly, check out Table 2.12 if you only have time to look at one statistic table. It shows as clearly as anything I've seen who got murdered by whom in 2002 (most recent statistic). The government is always about 2 years behind in releasing these statistics, and as you see in Table 2.12 Gramps and Granny don't get a category. It really makes you wonder who is in charge of picking those tables and why. I'm sure a lot of it is politics (feminist politics).
Now that I think about it. I wonder how the FBI tallies gay or tansexual partners under intimate partner violence? Don't ask, don't tell?
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:53 AM August 7th, 2004 EST (#3)
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I gave a feminist a statistic on men who were murdered.....It was from one of glenn sacks articles, I gave her the article as well...She said, 'that may be true...BUT....it's men killing men'.....I told her, 'well hey, its blacks killing blacks, no matter'.....
that just pisses me off so much...I"ve men told that same thing to my face by a woman before and gave a very similar response....she hasn't said it to me again, either because she knows what my reaction will be, or she saw the foolishness of her ways.....
p. george
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by Anonymous User on 05:57 AM August 7th, 2004 EST (#4)
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It's ironic that the civil rights movement of the 60's, which brought equal rights to blacks, was shanghied by the radical feminists to be used as a vehicle for women's rights.
The radical feminists treat all men in a bigoted and abusive manner, similar to the overtly prejudiced way blacks used to be treated, but no official in government or education will lift a finger to call today's hateful prejudice against men what it is.
Women will never be free as long as they choose to abuse men and deny their own complicity in the affair. It is certainly not blaming the victim to say this. It is laying the fault where it belongs, at the feet of the insidious, radical feminist, misandrist plague that works ceaselessly to destroy all men's lives. The radical feminists cannot rest unless they have heaped even more vilification (domestic violence law, paternity fraud, sexual harassment law, Title IX, etc.) on innocent men.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 01:38 PM August 7th, 2004 EST (#5)
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Be patient, Ray.
It took a long time before the government even ADMITTED that blacks were discriminated against.
It has even taken longer for the government, media and news organizations to admit the bigotry we Indians face. Only now are they, at least SEEMING to take notice.
It will be the same with us as men. It will take time and alot of protest, on our part, but I'm sure we will be recognized and heard, in the end.
Or, maybe I'm blue skying it, I don't know. But I believe we'll prevail
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by Anonymous User on 07:23 PM August 7th, 2004 EST (#6)
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"It will take time and alot of protest,..."
Sounds good. I've got one maybe two men's issues protests this month (wish it were cooler).
Just when I was get ready to make some more truck signs and hit the streets, a group of us are actually getting together.
It may not be accomplishing anything, but it makes me feel better, and the truth is a lot of people do see the big signs in the truck and at least become aware of the terminology of men's issues.
Ray
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If you've ever had the misfortune to closely examine feminist "thinking" about domestic violence, there's one golden rule in its neo-Marxist, hermetically-sealed irrationality:
No admission of unprovoked female violence.
In the DV "treatment" programs that men are court ordered to attend after a 911 call by a female who's alleged any kind of abuse (and no trial is required to invoke punishment of the alleged male oppressor...) there's one certainty -- only men will be vilified as the violent gender; no recognition of female aggression is allowed.
Slowly but surely the mass media is beginning to pay attention to female violence. You can only stick your head in the sand for so long...
When the truth about female domestic violence sees the light of day, the assumed moral superiority of the feminist lie will be put to rest for good.
Lyndie England will be the iconic patron saint of feminism's timely demise!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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"That's right 10,779 men were killed in 2002, but only 287 of those were killed by an intimate."--Ray
I distrust this statistic. That is, I think it underreports the number of male victims of spousal homicide and partner homicide.
Warren Farrell and others have pointed out the reasons why male deaths may be undercounted: the woman's use of poison or other means that results in the man's death not being reported as a murder, but rather as the result of disease or accident; the women's use of a third party or hit man to assist in the murder, resulting in the crime being counted as a "multiple offender killing" rather than as a spousal homcide or intimate murder; the criminal justice system's undeniable tendency to treat female violent offenders more leniently than male offenders with the result that a women who kills her partner or husband may avoid conviction, while a man in a similar situation probably would not.
It's interesting to note that a female researcher studying "battered wife syndrome" found that less than 6 percent of female killers actually had justifiable self-defense as a motive for the killing. Specifically, she found that not a single one of the hundreds of women she interviewed who had been imprisoned for murdering their husbands or lovers had been battered. She found that women tend to kill men when they realize that the men are worth more dead than they are alive, as where a man is not a great provider, but has a generous life insurance policy. (This is pointed out in Thomas B James' book "Domestic Violence - The 12 Things You Aren't Supposed to Know").
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What is so puzzling is our society's continuing mass denial of the obvious...
Women are violent. Respectable academic studies show that women are equally aggressive as men in intimate partner violence, even resorting more frequently to the use of lethal weapons.
Women commit the majority of child homicides.
Lesbian couples engage in higher levels of domestic violence than heterosexual couples.
WHY the media blackout?
Think maybe there's a "politically correct" filter in the media's coverage?
I guess we'll know when newspaper headlines state "Female Teacher Rapes Her Male Students" instead of "Teacher Accused of Having Romantic Trist..."
Time for change, fairness, truth, and the end of the feminist gag on media coverage of female predatory behavior...
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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Ray, Nice comment. When you said
"Lesbian couples engage in higher levels of domestic violence than heterosexual couples.", It sounds like it makes sense, as among heteros, women initiate violence more often than men, so put 2 women together, they should be more violent...
But do you have any references/citations for that?
Feminism=Fascism : Get Wise to the Lies
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I also want to have access to that info (lesbian DV stats).
It's DAMN useful when women play the "women aren't violent" card, and we can prove that DV is done by ALL people (even when *gasp* men aren't around)
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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