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by Anonymous User on 01:36 PM July 21st, 2004 EST (#1)
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This talk about "harm" is such bunk. When it's a male on a female they presume the harm and any mention of it not being very harmful is immediately treated with disdain. Double standard as usual.
Marc
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It also goes on to say(Guberman is her lawyer): "There are two schools of thought on this," Guberman said. "One is that a woman should be punished as much as a man, the other is that there is a double standard that boys do not have to be protected to the same extent as girls. "All statutory rape cases are different," Guberman said.
This Guberman creep just may be the source for all of those gross lawyer jokes! Boys should be protected MORE than girls in statutory rape cases because underaged males can and have been held responsible for child support for any offspring that may result from these rapes. Another is that a female always has the choice to abort the fetus but the male doesn't. If his rapist wants to carry the bastard to term then there is nothing the law can do. And of course he can be held liable for support payments and will probably go to prison, where he may get raped again, if he fails to pay.
Gee...what a great country we live in! Such freedom, such liberty, such horseshit!
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I'm gonna say something controversial (what a freakin' surprise):
Some girls who are 12-14 years old who have sex are NOT traumatized either. Now, quick disclaimer for any Troll [cut and paste] femniazi, no, I am not condoning statutory rape of little girls. But that said let's get some reality into the picture.
I've known girls when I was in junior high who were 13 or 14 who had sex with lots of boys, were blatantly the aggressor, and who bragged about their "conquests". Do I know if 5-15 years later they are "screwed up" (read: traumatized) over it? No, I don't. And they may well be.
Not long ago we had the story posted here about the 14 year old girl who had seduced **22** lovers (her age to age 22), had the exploits written in a journal, wanted to write a BOOK about it, and had she not been found out and stopped would have kept "counting notches".
What does this have to do with this case?
Everything.
Sure, these boys may be succumbing to their hormones and "psyched" that they "got laid". They may feel that way now. But since feminists and child psychologists seem so oh-so-uninterested in even studying male sexual trauma from molestation, we don't KNOW how they felt a decade later.
And, going back to my original point, many of the girls may not have been "trumatized" during the sexual episode, and only years later have deveolped problems because of being molested. At the time they were "psyched" that someone wanted them (just as boys), that someone older found them attractive (just as boys), and found the whole sexual stimulation thing to be quite exciting (just as boys).
As another poster mentioned these boys may be hit years later for child support. The most famous I know of being the one posted on this site about a boy who was 14 who was gotten drunk, seduced, and then hit with child support payments 15 years later. This was upheld by the (if memory serves) the New Jersey Supreme Court.
Oh, and the admitted molestor got custody of her now 14 year old son (same age as her victim at the time of his molestation) and gets to suck up money from her victim for YEARS.
So, considering that I have not heard anyone take a deep look at the long term sexual, intimacy, and relationship damage done to boys it's no wonder the Feminazis can say that there is no documentations of it. Nice.
Some girls who had older boyfriends or trysts with older men aren't "permanently scarred", but we err on the side of caution and we punish those who would molest our little girls.
We should express our concern for little boys in the same ways, with the same legal deterrents, and with the same compassion and long term view.
Not make "that's different" arguments. The fact that this lawyer not only says this, but says this assertively instead of hiding his head in shame shows where we are in society.
It reminds me of lawyers who say something like: "well, she showed up wearing black lingerie under her clothes and teased him, what did she expect?"
Rightfully so those shyster lawyers no longer dare to utter such rape-mitigating comments for fear of condemnation or due to societal changes towards rape.
It's not "different" for boys. The fact it is socially, legally, and academically treated "differently" surely shows how the aristocracy of our country have so devalued even males who are at their most vulnerable: in their young and formative years.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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This link from the University of Missouri-Kansas City (surely the Harvard of the Midwest!) defines several categories of pedophilia.
http://www.umkc.edu/sites/hsw/issues/pedophil.html
The academic expert takes a benign, almost praiseful view of female-on-boys sexual abuse --
"Female pedophilia:
Although the vast majority of pedophilia is among males, female pedophilia does exist. However, female pedophilia is not commonly reported, possibly because the female's affection shown toward a child is seen as maternal, as opposed to sexual in the males. Additionally, male children do not view sexual relations with adult women negatively, and therefore may not report the incident. However, it is reportedly fairly common for young males (12 years old or younger) to engage in sexual activities (usually sexual intercourse) with adult women, usually in their twenties, who are usually known by the boys and typically friends of parents, neighbors or baby-sitters."
Note especially the exculpatory (and creative!) argument that female molesters are behaving with "maternal affection!"
Wow! Gives one a whole new appreciation for our most common mf-ing profanity!
Who knew it was a compliment?
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 11:52 PM July 21st, 2004 EST (#9)
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"maternal affection!"
Bwahaha...Of course.It`s not like they`ll call the women for what they are(horny pigs who can`t control themselves).No,they have to make it sound elegant and innocent."Oh she was just showing affection"
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The Chicago Sun-Times reports on a six-year sentence given to a 42 year-old female librarian who sexually molested three high school minor age boys. And, she has to register as a sex offender when she’s released!
The convicted perpetrator, a fine mother of six kids, had the gall to say she thought her sentence was harsh, (the law provides up to 15 years) because the judge “wanted to make an example of a woman!”
Would that more blackrobes were so fair and balanced in their decisions…
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-lib21. html
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on 10:34 PM July 21st, 2004 EST (#8)
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According to women's studies "gender is a social constrution" so let's apply it here. Instead of conditioning males to "get tough or die," and females to be "vulnerable," "delicate," and "sugar and spice and everything nice" let's treat men and women equal under the law. WHAT A HELL OF ANY IDEA! WE SHOULD MAKE THAT AN AMMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUION! Oh, it's in the constitution. My mistake.
Ray
(click) Female Criminality
Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item. All I am trying to convey is as the page comes up initially.
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"Williams postponed the sentencing in May because of a scheduling conflict and had halted a previous attempt at the sentencing in April after a 16-year-old girl, called as a character witness by Guberman, testified that one of the boys had made her pregnant when she was 15."
Wait a minute. What about Rape Shield laws? Shouldn't the accusers previous sex life be excluded from all rape hearings? I cannot believe the prosecution didn't have the case dismissed right there. Got this pisses me off. No harm done? HELLO!? The boys were afraid to testify...gee sounds familiar. The boys were upset at the idea of their rapist getting probation..sounds familiar. They now have to go to school and face their peers who have the knowledge that a sodomy took place...no damage done? How about having a loving adult relationship later in life? How about having children and trusting the school system?
I think the damage would be done tenfold to the woman if these were my boys. She wouldn't need probation. Grrr. The Biscuit Queen
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Where did you get that ... I didn't see it?
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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