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by Anonymous User on 06:56 PM July 8th, 2004 EST (#1)
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Now that feminists are getting over the shock of Abu Ghraib, they need to start getting used to all the other abusiveness and criminal activity that females engage in like domestic violence, paternity fraud, false accusations of rape, child abuse, d.v., sexual harassment, etc. (and it's not because of the patriarchy).
Here's another shocker for the feminists, "WOMEN'S STUDIES CURRICULUM IS LOADED WITH MAN-HATING LIES!"
Good cartoon, I hope the word keeps on getting out.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 01:18 PM July 9th, 2004 EST (#4)
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What is it with you guys?
There are women suffering in India, Africa, Arabia and other places all over the world and all you can do is gripe how bad MEN have it, in America.
Boo hoo hoo.
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by Anonymous User on 01:41 PM July 9th, 2004 EST (#5)
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There are always women suffering somewhere. It's amazing how women can switch hats at will. When I want to be the "POOR VICTIM" I can and when I want to be viewed as the super chick who can do everything and anything I can. We will stop "griping" when women stop complaining. Women in America are still saying they get a raw deal after 30 years of programs and propaganda.
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by Anonymous User on 11:21 PM July 10th, 2004 EST (#16)
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Actually, American women are THE most protected, provided for and PAMPERED group of people on EARTH!
So, "boo hoo" to you, too.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:16 PM July 9th, 2004 EST (#6)
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What is it with you guys?
There are women suffering in India, Africa, Arabia and other places all over the world and all you can do is gripe how bad MEN have it, in America.
Boo hoo hoo.
Yea riiiight! There is an epidemic of males suffering false arrests for false accusations of domestic violence, rape, child abuse, paternity fraud, and more. We have more falsely accused males doing prison time than any other Nation. Yes. That is more falsely imprisioned men than India, Africa, or China!
Yet all these do-gooders can whine about is us exposing the men’s' issues and wanting equal justice for males.
Whaaaaa! Get a life looser.
Quit worrying about the losers in Africa, Arabia, and India who are too stupid to solve their own problems.
Hell. If we really try then I'll bet we can double the population of male prisoners by 2006! And if we really, really, really tried hard then I'll bet we could have %80 of them put in jail as falsely accused victims.
If we try even harder, using the 4.5 billion set aside for women from the VAWA, I'll bet we could even have all of the police doing house to house searches of EVERY MALE to determine if they can be falsely accused of ... well ... something! Then we could get the arrest rates even higher!
Naturally, the feminists would celebrate such a victory. We are well on our way to them succeeding at such a strategy.
Warble
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There is something I would like to get off of my chest......it's this brassier that the big bad boogey person has been forcing me to wear...oooh the big bad boogey person won't give me an orgasm....oooh the big bad boogey person spoiled my appetite and now I'm anorexic....oooh the big bad boogey person makes me puke and now I'm bulemic....oooh the big bad boogey person makes more money than I do...It's not fair....oooh the big bad boogey person forces me to spend too much money on clothing and make-up just to look attractive...it's not fair....oooh the big bad boogey person is stareing at me....teacher!!! make him stop it!!! oooh the big bad boogey person looks at my tits when he talks to me...teacher!!! make him stop it!!!...oooh the big bad boogey person gets airsick and then expects female flight attendants to take away the barf bag....
I could keep this up for more pages than this site has server allotment for without repeating myself once!!!
You feminazi shit maggot trolls are fine ones to get off of the pedestal and onto the high horse about whining and complaining.
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I noticed you dismissed any men who are treated badly out of hand.
Allow me to shatter your argument.
American women have more rights, more luxuries, and more power than any women on Earth. But, does that mean that when women here are wronged that we should ignore it because of someone somewhere suffering? I don't think you would be so callous were you to see a woman suffering, and a man telling her to "suck it up" because someone in India had it worse.
Second, using YOUR logic, since more people of color are victims of crime than whites, should we then ignore whites who are raped, beaten, batttered, or discriminated against?
Your post refelcts on your indoctrination, and does so poorly.
Learn how to think critically before posting stuff that is so easily debunked.
Until then,
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Steven, excellent response.
Unfortunately I see this kind of distraction and change of subject used successfully on a regular basis, often on media people who know better but don’t want to risk their jobs by insisting on integrity.
The underlying, and mostly unchallenged, message from feminists is “We must ignore all problems that men have until every woman on earth lives in a feminist utopia” (followed by a self-righteous claim to believe in equality - for women).
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by Anonymous User on 11:29 PM July 10th, 2004 EST (#17)
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I was just saying there are more women suffering in the world then men. We need to pay attention to those women. I didn't ask to have the shit kicked out of me on the internet, just because I expressed that oppinion. Maybe if you guys weren't so pissed at women for no good reason, You'd see that what I say is true.
Besides it's you men's JOB to protect women, not abuse us. which is what most of you do, any way, because all you want to do is controll us.
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First, mensactivism.org may give a general idea on the focus of the site.
Second, the suffering of women in other cultures is often very subjective. Things such as wearing a Burka may or may not consitute suffering depending on your personal views. A idea of moral absolutism does not apply, people only suffer when they feel they suffer. I have n doupt that someone whom is feed constantly suffers more from two days without food than someone whom regularly goes without food for two days. This isn't a matter of treatment but of pain and misery.
Most people have good reason to be pissed at women, or people that slight men. There are many example of good reason, and I will merely point you to many of the news topics presented on this site.
I personaly never signed some contract saying it is my job to protect women, nor even my fellow person. This is not to say I won't, but to say I have a DUTY to protect someone else, especially if they do not take measure to protect themselves is absurded. It may be a good thing to do, but there are many good things that are not, and should not be forced upon people.
As far as controling you, what makes you think that. Our actions are our own, I may try and influence you, but that is no crime, nor sin, nor fault. We always try and influence others to behave as we wish, you try with your post. It based of the opinions of the people of this site will almost certainly fail. The people whom often choose to post have fairly set beliefs, not to say they are note open minded, but on some issues such as this, I would say it is a lost cause for you.
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Hmmmm, "I was just saying there are more women suffering in the world then men. We need to pay attention to those women."
Let's review feminist philosophy as practiced: 1. Men are evil. 2. Men do not matter. 3. The rights and priviledges of women need to be expanded. 4. The responsibilities of men need to be expanded. 5. The rights of men need to be curtailed.
Your post touches on principles #2 and #4.
"Besides it's you men's JOB to protect women, not abuse us. which is what most of you do, any way, because all you want to do is controll us."
Wrong on all counts. It is your responsibility to protect yourself. If a random man decides that you're worth protecting, consider yourself lucky. Personally, you're not going to get any extra protection from me than the average man would. Chivalry is dead and many of us realize it.
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by Anonymous User on 07:12 AM July 11th, 2004 EST (#20)
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TROLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
Light those pitchforks! Sharpen those torches!
. . .no, wait. . .strike that. . .reverse it. . .
. . .right! On we go!
Ack!
Non Illegitimi Carborundum, and KOT!
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Besides it's you men's JOB to protect women
Oh this is just too rich! Immanuel Kant would be so proud of you! (That is, with his "good is defined in terms of duty" philosophy that you feminists would be nothing without. Must really piss you off that the whole feminist movement owes everything it is to a man, eh?)
Just what in the hell makes you think it's a man's job to protect you? Huh? Where the fuck do you get off telling men what their jobs are?
You feminists have the ultimate "I can have my cake and eat it too" mentality. One minute you feminists are screaming "I am woman!!!! Hear me roar! I can do anything a man can do! We don't need men!"
The next minute, you've suddenly turned into Little Miss Weakling who demands that men protect you. After all, according to you, it's our job to protect you. Really? Who hired me for this particular job? Because I have some bad news for him/her: I quit.
Well Miss Thang, I got news for ya: It ain't my job to do shit for you. You're so fucking tough and powerful, do it your damn self. I, and a lot of other men like me, are sick and tired of being told how terrible and evil and oppressive we are, yet still expected to sacrifice ourselves for your almighty vagina.
You're a woman. So let's hear you roar. After all, you don't need men. Let your feminist sisters protect you.
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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I was just saying there are more women suffering in the world then men.
On what do you base this belief?
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by Anonymous User on 12:38 PM July 11th, 2004 EST (#23)
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The feminitwit troll probably bases that belief on years of mindless feminist indoctrination.
The number of innocent men around the world who are killed vastly exceeds the number of innocent women killed. Given the prevalent belief among women of male inferiority, war makes sense as a female conspiracy to eliminate men. That may sound farfetched, but it's closer to the truth than anything you'll hear in womyn's studies.
News alert to women who think it's my job as a male to die for them. I WON'T DIE FOR YOU!
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by Anonymous User on 01:15 PM July 11th, 2004 EST (#24)
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Our little troll freind is sureal, don't you think?
Look, "lady", In no way am I gonna "protect" a group of people whom in large part want to see Me and my brothers suffer, take away our rights, debase, de-humanize and for all intent and purpose destroy us on every level.
That is like me as an Indian being told I have to protect the Ku Klux Klan!
I don't get people like you.
MANY of you (women) say how much you hate us, how much you like to see us hurt, how you enjoy seeing us in pain on every level, how you don't want us or need us and that you wish we would all get off the planet, THEN turn around and state "It's you men's job to protect us!"(????)
Honestly, can you REALLY not see the ABSURDITY of your statement?!?
If your opinion was in the minority, I wouldn't even bother responding to it. But un-fortunately your oppinion is something of a majority, these days. And THAT, my troll friend is why we are men's activists, and THAT is why we WILL defeat you. Not because we hate you, Not because we want to "controll" you, But because we HAVE TO!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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"I was just saying there are more women suffering in the world then men."
This is highly debatable. Abuses against women are constantly being pointed out; abuses against men are constantly being downplayed. This will neatly explain your misconception.
" We need to pay attention to those women. I didn't ask to have the shit kicked out of me on the internet, just because I expressed that oppinion. Maybe if you guys weren't so pissed at women for no good reason, You'd see that what I say is true.
Besides it's you men's JOB to protect women, not abuse us. which is what most of you do, any way, because all you want to do is controll us."
It is NOT the "job" of men to protect women. All human beings are equally responsible for caring for all other human beings. You seem to live in a fantasy world in which men are second-class citizens, placed on earth solely for your protection. Wake up, dearie.
bg
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Ok, I'll go slow and be serious in my response.
You said:
"I was just saying there are more women suffering in the world then men. We need to pay attntion to those women."
To which I respond:
Gee, what happened to "every victim counts"? And again, you go with the numbers game, but only when convenient. The fact remains more people of COLOR are victims of crime, so .. by YOUR logical process we should ignore white victims. Oh, and since homosexuals are a small percentage should we completely discount them too?
More pearls of Wisdom:
Besides it's you men's JOB to protect women, not abuse us. which is what most of you do, any way, because all you want to do is controll us.
I see. So MEN are supposed to protect women. Ok, I'll accept that under one condition: when men are falsely accused or being demonized by your fellow women, and our strength works against us, I would submit it is YOU who needs to step up to the plate and say something.
Ohhhhh, you're more interested in being popular with your "sisters" than doing the right thing?
And this "you want to control us" ... ummmm, and you got this from WHERE exactly?
We are the ones pointing out discrepencies in the application of the law.
What YOU want is the Princess treatment when it's convenient ("IT'S YOUR JOB TO PROTECT US") and then you want to instantly revert ot "EKWALITY" when THAT suits you.
Oh, yes, one of us is a sexist. Guess who?
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 12:58 PM July 12th, 2004 EST (#28)
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"Oh, yes, one of us is a sexist. Guess who?"
That would be you.
You can only be a sexist if you have the POWER to be one and use that power to beat down those with out that power.
MEN have all the power, not WOMEN!
Therfore as a woman it is not possible for me, or any woman to be a sexist!
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Wow.
Do you really believe this? I mean, haven't you ever talked to one of your divorced girlsfriends and found out just how easy it was for her to get rid of her husband? And how much of his money she's "entitled" to? And how easy it really is to ignore his "visitation rights"? Haven't you ever gone to a night club and found out how easy it is to get a guy to pay for your dinner and your drinks?
An acquaintence recently went to the hospital with his wife, who was expecting their first child, for an amnioscentesis (she's 37, and her pregnancy has been declared high-risk). At some point the doctor giving the test asked the mom if she wanted to know the sex of the baby. At some point he spoke up, and was advised in NO uncertain terms that he had no business even expressing an opinion on this, and it seems that this is the policy of the hospital. So when it comes to reproduction, women have ALL the power.
Recently I wanted to change the beneficiary on my company-paid life insurance policy. I was required to get a form signed by my wife showing her consent to this. And all I was doing was changing the beneficiary to my children!
Besides, dimwit, who as the power has little to do with the definition of who is sexist. You've demonstrated your hatred clearly, and without a doubt, you are therefore sexist.
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Anonymous Bigot on 04-07-12 13:58 EDT wrote:
"That would be you.
You can only be a sexist if you have the POWER to be one and use that power to beat down those with out that power.
MEN have all the power, not WOMEN!
Therfore as a woman it is not possible for me, or any woman to be a sexist!"
I hardly know where to start, so I'll just leave it at a request and a statment.
First, give me ONE example, outside of obvious upper-body strength, where a man has more power than a woman in our society. Something true and demonstrable, not some women's studies twaddle.
Secondly, prejudice is the practice of 'pre-judging' someone based upon some characteristic they have.
Pre-judging on the basis of race is racism. Pre-judging on the basis of sex is sexism. People who do these things are bigots.
You have shown contempt for the valid and legitimate grievances that men have in our society, and the grave injustices and suffering they endure, both at the hands of women and under 'women-first' legal and social policies that treat men as slave-labour, disposable, and sub-human.
By your own statements, you are a sexist bigot.
I'm really glad that there are decent and caring men and women in my life and on this particular forum, and that I don't have to associate with the likes of you.
And it's MY job to die for YOU? I don't THINK so!
Grow a brain, chicky, and get a life while you're at it.
Ragtime
The Uppity Wallet
The opinions expressed above are my own,
but you're welcome to adopt them.
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The definitions of "sexist" are "one who demonstrates prejudice or discrimination based on sex or gender" and "one who fosters stereotypes of social roles based on sex or gender". Nothing there about "power", which, by the way, is good news for you, because men most certainly do NOT have all the power.
bg
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by Anonymous User on 01:20 PM July 13th, 2004 EST (#33)
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Beleive me "lady", if we men had "ALL THE POWER" you women wouldn't be getting the free ride that you get now.
In divorce court it is the MOTHER not the father who generaly gets custody of the kids. In many cases this is done even if the mother is a DRUG USER or otherwise un-fit parent!
In the case of domestic violence, you women get a free pass to abuse men. and MUCH of the time if you attack your husband or boy friend HE GOES TO JAIL!!!
In the media EVERY SINGLE ONE of your (women's) issues is addressed. Men's are rarely if EVER addressed!! Also, when you go to the movies or watch TV, which gender is it you see being kicked in the crotch, constantly portrayed as a dimwit, beaten, shot, iced, sliced and diced and tied up like an animal with jumper cables attatched to there genitals???!!!???
WOMEN? no, it is ALWAYS MEN!
So don't give me this "I am a poor helpless woman with no power" garbage.
You have power. ALOT of power. As a female you not only have power but government sanctioning, protection and SPECIAL rights over ANY and ALL men!
Tell me something, dear. I am an Indian. whom do you think has more power in this country, you or me? Not only from an ethnic stand-point but a gender stand-point.
Give up?
Well, believe me, my friend it is YOU hands down!
And one more thing. Despite the fact that you, as a (likely white or black) woman, have vastly more power than I as a man OR an Indian do, If I hated YOU because of your ethnicity or gender I would indeed be a SEXIST and a BIGOT! Power or no power, HATE is HATE!
But I do not hate you. I pity you.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Nice rebuttal Thundercloud.
Very nice
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 02:14 PM July 12th, 2004 EST (#30)
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"all you want to do is controll us" No,troll we don't want to "controll" you and we don't want to control you either.
Hotspur
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by Anonymous User on 10:01 PM July 9th, 2004 EST (#13)
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Do please get back to us on this when ANY nation equally protects the fundamental human right to genital integrity for both girls AND BOYS.
Because unless and until that happens, or you become genuinely informed about gender issues and change your femelitist attitude to something more humane, I really have no reason to engage in discussion with you -- I do not see how it will at all benefit me.
Ack!
Non Illegitimi Carborundum, and KOT!
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by Anonymous User on 03:59 PM July 10th, 2004 EST (#15)
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"What is it with you guys?
There are women suffering in India, Africa, Arabia and other places all over the world and all you can do is gripe how bad MEN have it, in America.
Boo hoo hoo."
Well, Boo hoo hoo, if you want to look at it on a country by country basis, then men are suffering equal or worse in those countries than women are, and it is without dispute that men are suffering far more greatly than women are here in America as well as the rest of the western world, thanks to the virulent man-hating effects of the gender/radical feminist agenda.
I guess some people just can't see that, becuase when they don't have their head buried where the sun doesn't shine, they have it buried in a lying, man-hating women's studies textbook. Please read through the linked site below to help clear up some of gender/radical feminist obfuscation that your intellect appears to be suffering so greatly from.
Have a Nice Day, Ray
(click) Mensbiz, and read to your hearts content.
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The cartoon shocked me when I read it: Gary Trudeau usually just parrots the feminist line. I still remember his series on how girls are supposedly not called on in the classroom. Maybe he's actually learning. This is a good sign.
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It's a conditioned response...woman nags bitches whines complains or gets righteously indignant....man caves in and gives her her way.
This has generally been seen as a formula for disaster when raising boys.
I have no doubt that life on Mars would make more sense to us than life on Venus.
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This makes sense about how women tend toward oblivion toward their own faults, mainly out of attributing them to men in their perceptions of women as icons of virtue and purity. This leads women to commit even more heinous acts, by believing that they can do no wrong in their narcissistic delusions of morality. Meanwhile most men, like Doonsbury, just shut up and don't mention it to avoid trouble while women act "schocked, SHOCKED" to learn that females can be cruel and callous-- and media images of men being always the perpetrators while women are always the innocent victims, only serve to reinforce this self-serving lie and bigotry.
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by Anonymous User on 09:50 PM July 9th, 2004 EST (#12)
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A perceptive comic, I feel, and a shift to maturity by someone who thought the world was simpler than it is. A lot of people must have read that strip. The fact that it appeared on Independence Day is a coincidence, I know, but one I'll enjoy all the same. Thanks for posting the strip to this site.
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