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Most women don't know what they want, but the logical implication of attacking all that is masculine while praising all that is feminine-- while at the same time bashing men who act feminine, and expecting men to be "confident" and productive etc, i.e. an impossible and unrealistic double-standard, is that men are inferior, and are resources to be exploited for their wants and needs.
Since this is precisely what they complain about men doing to women, then we see where it starts with women conditioning men to behave this way both by selecting for such traits, as well as bringing up their boys to behave this way.
No of these women ask, which hand rocked the cradle of these men-- now it's time.
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Neville Chamberlaine was a nice guy...the ethnic Germans who lived in the Sudetan province of Chechoslovakia wanted anschlus with the Fatherland he was told...Oh but what about the Skoda factory, won't that violate the Versaille treaty? Oh but so many Germans work there, you wouldn't want to create that much unemployment just when we are comming out of this great depression now would you? No I guess not says nice guy Neville...besides we really don't want to send an expeditionary force and start a ruckus...here you go Adolf. Adolf with the stroke of a pen aquires more than half of the tanks in Europe and Nice Guy Neville gets "peace in our time"
On the other hand Winston Churchill was NOT a very nice man at all..."Sir Winston! you are drunk!!" "That's right madam, and you are ugly...tommorrow I will be sober." Wouldn't want a rude tell them off, lacking "people skills" mysogynist like THAT running things now would you?
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Touche' .... nice analogy MAUS.
I fear what will happen when the next Saddam starts up and we have a woman, or a democrat, president.
The Biscuit Queen
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I fear what will happen when the next Saddam starts up and we have a woman, or a democrat, president.
Why, when Democrats have a far better track record than Republicans do when it comes to war?
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"In the United States women are, I think for the first time in history, gaining real power."
Wrong. And it is pretty bad from there, too.
I don't see what others see redeeming in this piece. Whatever experiment is being played out here has already failed.
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I would be interested in hearing what it was about this article that you both disagreed with,and why?
"All you fascists bound to lose" - Woody Guthrie
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by Anonymous User on 12:40 AM April 7th, 2004 EST (#11)
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"Women and men want very different things and therefore very different worlds. Men want sex, freedom, and adventure; women want security, pleasantness, and someone to care about (or for)them. Both like power. Men use it to conquer their neighbors whether in business or war, women to impose security and pleasantness."
The author of this piece is obviously some kind of idiot. The above passage alone includes some of the worst sweeping generalizations I've ever seen.
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Yes clearly he is the idiot,
One of the many pervasive misunderstandings society has inherited from feminism is the current popular definition of "generalizations" as incorrect in themselves.We have gotten to the point were the only thing neccassary to dismiss a generalization is to describe it as one.It is no longer neccassary to present a counter argument since its not the actual argument thats being dismissed but its structure.The "politically correct" and their word speak minions have managed to convince whole societies to accept their definition of generalization's as "logically incorrect" and thereby hamstring debate the world over.
To say women behave as women is a generalization,it is also true.The usual approach taken to dismiss statements such as the example,is to point to the existance of a single female or group of females that do not fit the description.This approach simply illustrates that there was little understanding of what a generalization was to begin with,since what is being applied to dismiss the general argument is in fact the defininition of an absolute one.General arguments by definition include the presence of their own contradiction,that is why they are framed "generally" .Absolute statements on the other hand are easily discredited simply because they are inflexible and a single example of a contradiction is enough to challenge it.In order to discredit a general statement it must be shown that the size of the sample is too small to support the conclusion.So the above generalization continues to be true until it can be shown that a larger percentage of women behave as men instead of as women.
The above generalization also continues to remain valuable,as do all generalizations,since they are the root of understanding and the very definition of inductive reason.We move from specific detailed observation to general principals so that we can see how much of an effect the detailed observations have on the specific group.Specific female behavior's are not only seen to be present in the vast majority of the female population but to dominate that population,this move from the specific behavior in an individual to the general behavior in a population helps us as humans to understand the nature of what it means to be female,just as the move from the specific to the general helps us as humans understand the nature of all things.Since all things outside of ourselves exist as a general experience all things outside of ourselves can only be understood and described in general terms,as there are very few absolutes.
The general criticisms directed at women by Fred were made generally because they reflect the general experiance,and they remain true and valuable even though some women or men through their behavior contradict these statements.These general statements only become untrue when they no longer reflect the general experience.
"All you fascists bound to lose" - Woody Guthrie
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