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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @06:14PM EST (#1)
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I was wondering why Claires sent me an email asking for my name an address, since I gave them these details in my first email. I think Glenn's analysis is right. They are trying to gauge if this is a serious protest. Now is the time to send a second wave of emails, snail mails and phone calls.
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They are trying to gauge if this is a serious protest.
As Glenn observed, this is Stalingrad (or as we characterized it here, Stonewall). The scale of magnitude difference between Claires and the previous 3 targets is staggering - a total of 72 stores with 3 retailers versus over 2800 - a ratio of 40 to 1.
I dearly, sincerely, hope that people do respond. Tonight, I am going to write everyone I know asking them to get involved.
But, for me the die is already cast. If they had done the socially responsible thing, I would have been willing to let bygones be bygones. But, since they are clearly interested only in the financial impact to their company and not at all in any sort of social resposibility, I am truly ready to do as Glenn asks and "unleash hell on them".
Let them learn, as Firestone did, that the public perception of one's brand and its quality, is more important than the reality of it.
As far as I am concerned, from now on Claire's = Child Abuse 'R us.
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I sent them my real name and address along with the following comment:
"Other people are more verbally eloquent than I am, but I would once again like to express my disgust at learning that you are carrying Boys Are Stupid products in your stores. If you don't understand why then there is little I can do, other than avoid shopping in your stores and urge friends and family to do likewise."
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I'm not really worried. The clowns could just be trying to build up their mailing list. In a few weeks we will all get flyers offering 40% off on Boys Are Stupid products. :)
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LOLL!
Gotta love the insightful skepticism.
When I receive my coupon for 40% off on "Boys Are Stupid" merchandise, I will write --
"You just lost 100% of my business, forever!" on the offer ...
and mail it back... sender pays postage!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on Friday January 23, @07:58AM EST (#17)
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If you're really concerned about this, maybe you should offer to speak to someone in your local branch instead of giving them your address. That would verify you.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 29, @06:45PM EST (#24)
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It is amazing to me that there are so many people who do not realize that DAVID & GOLIATH is NOT a PRE-TEEN clothing line...It is NOT meant for young, little girls to wear to offend young, little boys...the target customer is actually older...aprox 16-39+ with a bit of attitude & sass & a SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!!!!!! Also- because it is designed by a man- it is even more funny! The motto of DAVID & GOLIATH is actually "we put the u back in fun" so if you think there is a dark, political, or ultra-feminist hidden agenda, you are mistaken...PLEASE lighten up!
(Let's not forget that there is freedom of speech in the US...AND that if no one bought the goods- they wouldn't continue producing them!)
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The tags in my post did not come across quite like I intended, or how they showed in the preview. The large body of text was all from Glenn, and I intended it to be italicized, but the two following paragraphs were mine.
I say this because Thomas made the comment about people who lead boycotts not threatening to never do business again with the company, no matter what.
I want to make it very clear that those comments were NOT Glenn's, but rather mine.
I think a much more eloquent way of showing how broad the support really is - would be to begin the economic action immediately. I think a drop in sales and revenues will carry much more weight than any number of names and addresses. And, I think the permanence of the effect will make a much greater impression.
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No problem, Thomas. It looks fine. I just really did not want anyone to mistake my firebrand type of in-yer-face activism for Glenn's sentiments. He is a real hero in all this and I think every men's activist needs to let him know that we see him that way.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @10:56PM EST (#10)
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I haven't rececived a request for my name and address either.
I sent them my name and city. I'm just going to wait for Sunday to hear what Glenn's next step will be.
It will be very interesting to see if Claires plans to continue carrying this line of products. I'm a patient man, patient and determined.
R.
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Katie.Michaels@claires.com
Thank-you for your e-mail inquiry. Please forward your mailing address
(and full name) so that we can appropriately respond to you.
Thank-you,
Katie Michaels
Director of Consumer Affairs
Claire's Stores, Inc.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @11:13PM EST (#11)
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My reply to Claire's, for your consideration:
I'm sorry, but given the lack of ethical judgement apparent in your selling products promoting violence against boys, i.e. products with the logo "Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them," I don't trust you to use my name and address in an ethical way.
After what you have done, why should people trust you?
Your company's policy is disgusting. You don't need my name and address to understand that!
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And then I sent out a few more notes about the situation to friends and reporters.
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That's basically it, I sent a couple of really basic emails to them. something like I thought David and Goliath products were very offensive, sexist, and promoted violence, and that I wouldn't be shopping there because of them. didn't mention I haven't shopped there for awhile, but anyway.
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Does anyone know who Claire's main competitors are? It might be a good idea to let them know what is happening.
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I must have used the Claire's online store locator wrong, because it didn't find any near me. I was talking with some co-workers about the issue on Friday (warning them I was going to recruit them by email) and they were both sure there was a Claire's and The Icing in our local mall. I ventured there today and found they were right.
Claire's is a small place crowded with stuff exclusively for pre-teen girls. Earrings, bracelets, diary's, hats, etc. LOTS of pink and nearly everything is fuzzy. The store was crowded with girls and I nearly suffocated from all the over-applied perfume.
The Icing is a more upscale, more spacious and for an older crowd. No pink. Expensive handbags.
I found D&G products in Claire's, but not Icing. They were placed oddly - on the wall, nearly behind the sales counter. Not a prime spot.
They had socks(pink)with "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" stitched in. They had "Boys are smelly" lip jelly, along with "It's all about me!" lip jelly. The only other D&G product I saw was on the top shelf - a large (pink) book bag with the D&G logo.
The rest of the store had plenty of stuff in the "I'm a princess" category, but these were the only ones overtly hostile to boys.
Their placement puzzles me. If they haven't been moved since the campaign started, they are in a place reserved for slow-selling product. (It seems to me. Any retail experts who can tell us for sure?) Apart from the book bags, there was maybe a total of $30 of D&G merchandise.
If that's so, why would Claire's hold onto such a marginal line once they received some complaints? It makes a whole lot of sense to simply dump them as the other chains have done.
Larry
The source of all power is the ability to say "No."
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by Anonymous User on Sunday January 25, @07:08PM EST (#20)
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"why would Claire's hold onto such a marginal line once they received some complaints"
I think because a given volume of complaints will not have the same impact on a business the size of Claire's as it had on the much smaller stores. Victory will require the protests to be continued for as long as it takes.
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by Anonymous User on Sunday January 25, @11:49PM EST (#21)
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The longer the protest goes on, the more people will know Calire's has this stuff, and that is not good for their business.
Small protest or not, word will get out, and whole lot of people will be very upset.
Very Interesting,
Ray
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Hartford...WTIC am radio host, Ray Dunaway had an exhilirating call in this morning with a high level of shock when he read the UPI story...
I did then call 3 local claire's stores...they still have the merchanise and it sells well!! I was told....
We need to follow up...trust but verify...that Claire's has acted and product is indeed pulled presently from the shelves!!!!
PA
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I sent the corporate officers as well as customer relations a letter regarding the David & Goliath products..now I just got a e mail from customer relations asking for my phone number so a corporate official can get in touch with me..I'm going to be sending it out in a few minutes....
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