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Propaganda In Arizona
posted by Hombre on Thursday January 22, @11:48AM
from the Feminist-institutions dept.
Domestic Violence hurkle writes "In the last couple days driving around Scottsdale, AZ, I have seen signs in the back of taxicabs reading, "Break the cycle of Domestic Violence" with a phone number, and the words "Men's Anti-Violence Network". So I looked it up: website

Turns out it's an initiative of the Arizona Foundation for Women, (kind of like how the sequel to the Vagina Monologues, about penises, was written by a woman) and filled with the same old tired misandric lies. I'm so disgusted, I don't even know what to do. No, that's not true. I'll try to gather some irrefutable facts, and send them a letter pointing out that men are not the only abusers. If it disgusts you too, please feel free to contact them and point out the truth."

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Let's do something then (Score:2)
by jenk on Thursday January 22, @12:44PM EST (#1)
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Please drop them a line. Their facts are actually myths perpetuated by feminists.
info@themangroup.org
True facts with sources would be a good start.
The Biscuit Queen
Re:Let's do something then (Score:2)
by Thomas on Thursday January 22, @01:07PM EST (#2)
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Their facts are actually myths perpetuated by feminists.

And probably paid for with our tax dollars through VAWA.

-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Let's do something then (Score:1)
by westcoast2 on Thursday January 22, @01:31PM EST (#3)
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Try reading the men/women targetted info leaflets.
Men:Abuser Woman:Victim
http://www.themangroup.org/whatsnew.shtml

Also read the list of companies on there members list.

I agree with the aim. The gender bias is obvious and the 'facts' rehashed myths. What to do?

thoughts from the k/b of westcoast2
Re:Let's do something then (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @04:26PM EST (#4)
Just a reminder;
http:csulb.edu/%7Emfiebert/assault.htm//www.

Reading the summarized comments at the bottom of these studies says it all.

Good work guys.


How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Thursday January 22, @04:58PM EST (#5)
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How come my score is only a **1** and JenK (TBQ) is a **2**. Granted, it's always easier for a girl to score .. (ahem) .. but feel unentitled. I feel victimized. I want my woobie!! JenK is unfairly using her female privlege to garner points... and I might need therepy (wah!).

(sorry, couldn't resist)

On a serious note, I have some DV stats saved on WORD docs, but can anyone get me proof that their statements are lies so I can sent it in too. I LIVE for letter writing (ok, a BIT of exageration there).

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @07:21PM EST (#7)
what are these scores anyways? who rates it? I don't really even know what it means.

p. george
Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:2)
by HombreVIII on Thursday January 22, @07:55PM EST (#8)
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Pay no attention to the rating system. The rating system is completely unimportant. MANN will handle the rating system for you. There is no reason for you to continue asking questions about the rating system. Furthur questioning at this point can only lead to ulcers and other health problems.

PS - Your friends and family don't love you. Only MANN loves you.
Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:2)
by Thomas on Thursday January 22, @08:41PM EST (#9)
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I want my woobie!!

Your woobie is in the mail.

-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 22, @09:52PM EST (#10)
'Cause Jen is a true treasure of a woman.
TBQ, we love you!!!!
Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:1)
by Dave K on Friday January 23, @10:57AM EST (#11)
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Man does she have you guys snowed! :P

Seriously... I've emailed groups like this in the past, not once have I gotten a response. They're interested in FUNDING, not facts.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
Re:She's been running around the house... ;-) (Score:1)
by Dave K on Friday January 23, @11:12AM EST (#12)
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singing "I'm a two, you're just a one... I'm a two, you're just a one"

I think she's got access to a top secret forum just for 2's... I keep seeing furtive glances when she's checking the board. When I ask her what she'd doin... she say, "doing... nothing... nothing at all, not posting to the secret forum for 2's or anything like that".

;)
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
Re:How come JEN gets a score of TWO? (Score:2)
by jenk on Saturday January 24, @10:31AM EST (#15)
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Oh, really, please, there is no secret club for 2's, I really have no idea what your talking about. I don't even know who I mean what I did to get a 2.
Dave, you are just paraniod. ;-)
Steven, you are just sore cause you got beat by a girl ;-)
The Biscuit Queen

HombreVIII, Thomas we need to go 'smoke a cigar' meet you at 'the garage' during 'the news'


Stat Sources (Score:1)
by A.J. on Thursday January 22, @05:59PM EST (#6)
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This organization will undoubtedly stand behind their phony data by saying they got it from XYZ authoritative source and consider the issue closed. One of the sources they reference is the “Governor's Division on Prevention of Family Violence”. A search of the gov’s site indicates the Governor’s Commission to Prevent Violence Against Women (Executive Order 2003-13) supercedes the Governor's Commission on Prevention of Family Violence.

Executive order here: http://www.governor.state.az.us/eo/2003_13.pdf

The exec order includes statements such as:

1.approximately one out of three women will be a victim of domestic
violence in her lifetime

2. battering of women in their own homes accounts for more injuries to
women requiring medical treatment than rapes, muggings, and car accidents combined

Does anyone have a source that confirms or refutes these figures?

I think we’ll get nowhere by criticizing DV advocates if it’s the state itself that they’re using for a reference. If data like this is phony our efforts should be directed at the state.
Re:Stat Sources (Score:1)
by westcoast2 on Friday January 23, @01:33PM EST (#14)
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These have prolly been put out before though...

Here is a link to stats debunking the ER myth

--> http://www.batteredmen.com/batemerg.htm

Here is a link to academic research giving
References examining assaults by Women on their spouses or male partners.

--> http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm

These maybe of some use...

Links from the k/b of westcoast2...


Martha Harmon (Score:1)
by napnip on Friday January 23, @12:03PM EST (#13)
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Themangroup.org is registered to Martha Harmon, of the Men's Anti-Violence Network. Her e-mail addy is:

marthafraserharmon@hotmail.com

I've already e-mailed her regarding that site. I would urge everyone else to do the same.

"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
Re:Martha Harmon (Score:1)
by hurkle (nosecow@hotmail.com) on Sunday January 25, @02:33AM EST (#16)
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Thanks to you all for your help with supporting statistics and sources. I just emailed my letter tonight and you all were a huge help. Thanks!!!
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