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Ugh. I mean, yeah, it's great and all that this actually got media attention, got convicted, but oh my god, 9 months for torture of depravity?? Couldn't they charge her for every count of aggravated assault and get a longer sentence?
Poor fellow, listen to him, saying she needs some counseling. If anyone was in need of specific counseling for male victims it is this guy - it doesn't even say if he'll get it, probably the only counseling he'd get is "well, yeah, she was bad, but you're part of the evil patriarchy, which in turn MADE her bad." or something messed up like that.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 15, @12:20AM EST (#2)
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It was in self defence, women don't batter their boyfriends.............
Since counseling is usually not free. Maybe she should at least have to pay for his counseling for a long long time. If this were a man who did this to a woman they would be more concerned that the woman have counseling then the man. No matter what it goes the same way.
I wonder if feminists would consider this the 'same' kind of violence that happens to women from domestic violence?
P. George
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 15, @12:41AM EST (#3)
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Interesting thing is that she was only given 9 to 23 months in prison. If this happened to a woman and the man got this light sentence there would be an outrage and she'd be the poster boy(girl) for DV awareness month, proving how the patriarchy gives not a shit about women.
And we are told that we live in a patriarchy that privileges ALL men at the expense of ALL women.
P. George
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I cannot believe this was considered an aggrevated assault and not domestic violence, or attempted murder. 9 months! Wow. TBQ
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 15, @02:19PM EST (#5)
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I cannot believe this was considered an aggravated assault and not domestic violence, or attempted murder. 9 months!
...and it won't show up in the domestic violence statistics so the statistics will go on showing that men don't need funding and women do.
Yes, they also pad the hell out the statistics with all kinds of ludicrous false accusations of domestic violence.
Domestic violence law is the biggest scam in America today.
frauds look like boy scouts compared to the unaccountable crooks running and funding the domestic violence industry.
Sincerely, Ray
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There's an interesting phenomenon staring to hit the legal radar screens nationwide...
State's that have long criminalized men as the only DV "batterer's" and have enacted very discriminatory "treatment" and sentencing protocols are being compelled to recognize the existence of female perpetrators of domestic violence.
In my fair feminzazi-infested home state of Illinois, the Bureau of Domestic Violence Prevention has just released a second part to its DV Protocol -- focused on "women who batter."
It only took them seven (7!) years (after issuing the biased men's protocols) to get around to this, and it was probably motivated more by fear of lawsuits alleging discrimination than by any real sense of gender equity in DV legalities.
Of course, as you'd expect, the new female batterer's Protocol goes to great lengths to exculpate women's violence.
It mandates that female perpetrators be screened and assessed to make sure they are not "victims" of abuse by their male partners, (no such process is obligated for men, 'natch...) and requires a different type of counseling and "treatment" than the vicious "shame and blame" gulags into which men are dragooned.
"Equal justice" again... only some chromosomes apparently mandate MORE EQUAL treatment than others!
Wanna have a fun phone call? Look up your state's Bureau of DV Prevention (usually housed under the State's Attorney's Office) and ask them to send you their Protocol for Female Batterer's!
Then, assuming they even have one for abusive women, get out your highlighter and note all the instances of "special but equal" treatment that women who batter will be afforded.
Same old duplicity. Same old feminist gender hatred permeating the legal "injustice" system!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Anonymous User on Friday January 16, @04:02PM EST (#20)
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"Interesting thing is that she was only given 9 to 23 months in prison."
At least she was found guilty of something. In Ireland before Christmas, there was a cluster of cases of wives walking free after murdering their husbands. In most cases the wife claimed abuse so that it was "justifiable homicide." However, in one case the wife said there was no history of abuse. The judge concluded that since there was no abuse, the wife couldn't have intended to kill her husband and he concluded the stabbing was "accidental homicide." So she walked free anyway.
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Do you have a specific link? I'd like to read it.
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by Anonymous User on Friday January 16, @06:20PM EST (#24)
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http://www.rte.ie/news/2003/1215/cotterg.html
If you go to this Irish radio link and go down to "audio and video" and click on "news at one " link, there is a report on the case on Real Player.
I heard about the case 5 weeks ago on the news and what stayed in my mind was the PRINCIPLE put forward by the judge, namely, that since there was no pattern of abuse, there was no intent and it was therefore accidental. Contrary to my initial post, the murder was a shooting rather than a stabbing and the case was an appeal against an initial conviction of murder.
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by Anonymous User on Saturday January 17, @02:16AM EST (#26)
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 15, @04:37PM EST (#6)
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The article states, "Katrina Onufer, 26, hit her then-22-year-old victim with a hammer, stabbed him with scissors and knives, and disfigured his penis by biting it, records say"
Now think of it. If a man were to disfigure a woman's vagina by biting it would he only get nine months?
Notice also that the "...Police charged the boyfriend with making a false report..."
That is just pure bullshit. Women never get charged with a false report when they go to the hospital!!! No, instead the man is arrested without the consent of the female. Why couldn't they have just charged the female like they would the male? Oh. I forgot. They are trained by feminist to hate males that are victims of domestic violence, and it is always the man's fault that they were attacked.
Finally, the article does mention that "...Onufer pleaded no contest to aggravated assault." Now think about this.....under the mandatory arrest laws the male would have suffered a domestic violence conviction, sexual assault, false imprisonment, attempted murder, and even more charges. They would have thrown away the key.
Women clearly get preferential and privileged treatment. Welcome to the Stalinist Democratic rule of America! Thank you feminist for hating men! Hopefully, this kind of crap will continue to escalate so that we can smack these feminist bitches down.
Warble
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Why don't we publish a list of judges who openly practice discrimination against men/for women. I can contribute the names of several judges here in Colorado, (The Princess State), who have allowed women here to literally get away with murder. In one case, a woman in Ft. Collins, Co run an elderly couple off the road killing them both. She was drinking underage at the time and had alcohol and drug paraphernalia in the car. She received 160 hrs., (# of hrs = combined age of the victims), of public service and 4 POINTS ON HER DRIVER'S LICENSE. This is the same number of points that are assesed for driving 15 mph over the speed limit. Any male would have at least lost their license for drinking underage and driving. God only knows what a male driver would have gotten for the other charges! In the trial transcript the judge mentioned how torn up the woman was over her act. She wasn't the one in a casket! She is still driving around and she has 2 more incidents of vehicular homicide to go before she loses her license. It must be so hard to be a female!
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Was the judge male or female? I've noticed that female judges respond more to displays of emotional distress by defendants, regardless of their gender.
Do you have a link to this case?
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With the misandry mindset of the judiciary in this country it would be a rather long list!
It would be more useful to put together a list of man friendly judges. A very short list to be sure.
PS:That misandric windbag Judge Judy is not one of them!
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I wrote the last 3 times .... can I get some OTHERS here to write too. Sorry if I am cranky, but I just had a bad day. Mea culpa. Anyways, I'll write a letter or two if someone else will do the same.
What needs to be highlighted:
1) Not counted as DV. Ignores the facts, not the same kind of "treatment", and the sentence was shorter.
2) Why were no DV shelters for men contacted for their take on this (WE know why, there AINT any!)
I'm just asking for some moral support on the letter writing thing.
Oh, and on a lighter and more funny note... umm ... I have been posting on the MS boards. No .. really. And my user name: LSBeene .. which they finally "figured out" was my way of making fun of "lesbians". WTF kind of subjective self - justifying crack are these people on?! Anyways .. it STARTED out as a thread about a teacher who molested a boy. Any guesses on where it went? And then just today they got onto "soldiers who rape". Up until then I was pretty restrained, but I kinda went off (in a VERY mild way)
Here is the link if anyone wants to lend moral support for my fight there:
http://www.msmagazine.com/cgi-local/ubb/ultimatebb .cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=001020;p=7
It starts on page seven and on we go back and forth to page 8. Wish me luck, I'm swimming with sharks who view my penis as lunch.
Steven
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It's not an ocean, it's an asylum. The depths of their insanity is astounding.
I'd be interested in your views on gender norming in the military, and the abilities of women to participate in combat. Have you already posted that somewhere?
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Steven, I have signed up but must be approved. I had followed this thread for a while, and the depths of their ability to switch the topic is amazing. I will post as soon as I can. The Biscuit Queen
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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Sorry, I was on Daves computer~that was me above
The Biscuit Queen
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Yes TLE .. I have ...
If you want I could post it for ya ... or send you and E-mail. Either way, it's up to you. Let me know.
Steven
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I don't see a PM feature on this site (did I miss it?) so I'd say just post it here.
Mainly I'm wondering if you support women in infantry style combat roles, or do you think their presence would further endanger male soldiers? Sort of like how you don't want draftees serving with you cause they don't want to be there. Where do you come down on this?
Thanks
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I have links to old threads ... and when I opened it ... IT WAS GONE! What happened.
Ok, since I just woke up and don't feel like typing.... the short answer is NO. Not only no, but HELL NO. I will type a long response later.
In the meantime ... WHAT THE HELL happened to all the old threads!?!?
Steven
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MAN, I MUST be tired. That's right. Since she bit him on his penis, THAT is sexual assault. Even by the LEGAL definition. Forced penetration. I mean, after the first bite, I am SURE he wasn't begging for it, consenting, or engaging in sexual activity. That is something I need to put into the letter ... ya know .. the one that others here are gonna write too (hint hint) to the DA and Paper. Ok ok , I'm off my soap box.
Steven
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I wrote! Finally! I hate writing because most of my letters sound like the teenybopper section of the men's movement. "You should stop that, because you suck!" ;)
I think someone who would consent to disfigured genitals cannot possibly be in their right mind to consent.
"The article titled "Woman gets 9 months for abusing man" by Rudy Miller on Tuesday, January 13th, highlighted a travesty of justice long overlooked. According to domestic violence statistics from the Justice Department, men account for nearly 35% of domestic violence victims. Yet, the amount of woman punished for domestic violence against their partners does not reflect this number. Why is this? This case gives a good impression, women are rarely convicted of domestic violence, skewing statistics and making it very difficult to get funding to help male victims. This does not even touch on the fact, as the DA stated, men are afraid to come forward. Men who protest their abuse are looked upon as weak or "wimpy."
From the sounds of it, this woman should have been convicted of domestic violence, each time she stabbed or hit him should've been a separate assault charge, the time he was placed in the hospital should have been an attempted murder charge, as his life was indeed in danger. Finally, for disfiguring another persons genitals, she should've been handed a sexual assault charge. A creature of this depravity deserves to have the book thrown at her, not a sentence that will probably result in less than a year in jail. "
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Excellent letter, not teeny bopper in the least. Good Job!
And I usually do write letters to the editor, I just don't always post them.
The Biscuit Queen
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by Anonymous User on Friday January 16, @11:20AM EST (#17)
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Anybody got the addresses (email or otherwise) of the DA? I would like to write a letter on this one.
Thanks,
Warble
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To what addresses can we write?
And are we writing in support of the man's attorney who pointed out his being a victim?
bg
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Link to Contact:
http://pennlive.com/contactus/
you have to pick Express-Times and then write your letter. I will be looking for the DA or ADA for my next E-mail.
Here is the Letter: (not one of my best, but every one helps)
This concerns a story written by: Rudy Miller
The Story was: Woman gets 9 months for abusing man.
I have some serious issues with this story. This story was about Domestic Violence, but I don't see that ANYWHERE in the story. This DV abuser should have been charged with Sexual Assault. Why? Because she mutilated a man's genitals with her mouth. I doubt that there was consent with this act, that mental and verbal abuse and coercion was used, and it was a sex act with violence. How come THOSE questions were not asked in the story. Did the reported ask the ADA? Where was a Men's Right's advocate in the story? Hard to find them huh? This "punishment" shows why. Your paper should have expressed outrage at the blatant double standard used in this case. When a "woman's advocate" speaks about domestic violence after a woman is beaten it gets printed, did you even LOOK for a men's advocate? If you think I am assuming a bias unfairly, let me know. I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to do an archive search using "DV" as the key word of back issues of your paper and see what sources are quoted. I found this story due to it being brought up at a Men's Right's group. We men are watching that the press address fairly when men are battered. If you think I am kidding, then how did I, who live in ALASKA, hear about this story? Beating, sexually assaulting, and disfiguring men is not "different", and I wish you would not publish stories that reinforce that thinking. Are you a free press or in fear of the PC Thought police. Print stories as they happen, in the context of how they happen, and demand equal justice. And when equal justice is not served, make sure to follow up on that.
L. Steven Beene II
Nome, Alaska
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http://penn.nj.com/expresstimes/contacts.html
Several people to chose from.
Martin K. Till, CEO, President & Publisher, 610-258-7171 ext. 3537, mtill@express-times.com
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Denise L. Smith, Vice President Advertising, 610-258-7171 ext. 3530, dsmith@express-times.com
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Robert F. Rothacker, Jr., Vice President Circulation & Operations, 610-258-7171 ext. 3504, rrothacker@express-times.com
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Joe Owens, Editor, 610-258-7171 ext. 3535, jowens@express-times.com
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Jim Deegan, Managing Editor, 610-258-7171 ext. 3638, jdeegan@express-times.com
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Chris Smith, Circulation Manager, 610-258-7171 ext. 3620, csmith@express-times.com
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David Yanoshik, Vice President, Market Development, 610-258-7171 ext. 3540, dyanoshik@express-times.com
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