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Quentin Tarantino says his new film "Kill Bill" is so outrageous it does "not take place on planet Earth".
Speaking ahead of tonight's UK premiere, Tarantino, flanked by Kill Bill stars Uma Thurman, Daryl Hannah and Julie Dreyfus, says the film is a feminist statement - "a film about girl power". News report here
Uma Thurman plays an ex-assassin who takes revenge on her employers who tried to kill her. Set in China, there is a lot of martial arts and sword-play. It looks like all the men she meets are pushovers, but the women have to taken very seriously. There are several one-on-one woman to woman fights.
Early reports suggest it will be very successful, especially due to the graphic violence. There is a second part due in February.
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by Anonymous User on Saturday October 04, @12:06AM EST (#2)
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I saw "Kill Bill" advertised on a bus stop billboard tonight, about 7 miles from Hollywood as I was driving around in the truck with the Warren Farrell for Governor sign on it.
Earlier in the evening I drove by a spot I drove by last night, only a block further North East. It seems there was a gang land slaying there last night at 2:30 A.M. As I drove by I saw two ambulances tonight with the red lights flashing, but no cops. It was probably just a heart attack or something.
Getting back to Kill Bill, I think it is tragic that Hollywood continues to glorify and gorify violence in sensational ways to attract audiences. Considering that there has been a documented 392% increase in the number of arrests of women for domestic violence in CA (1988 to 1998), while females are also provided with all kinds of shelters to go to when they feel like killing their man can only mean one thing; females are getting violent in epidemic proportions. The last thing society needs is a movie like Kill Bill to further encourage that, especially considering how often female crimes of violence are excused by feminist trained cops and judges.
What the world needs now is more people of good will and healing like Dr. Warren Farrell (Reunite Dads & Kids), and fewer movie moguls who behave like parasites living in societies ulcerations.
We have to keep trying to be the solution or by neglect we will allow societies problems (feminist agenda) to fester and grow. As I have heard Dr. Farrell repeat, "The main indicator of crime among adolescents is Fatherlessness." I think I quoted that correctly. If not, I am close, and you certainly get the idea.
Men are important to families, children, society, and yes even women. It is about time we started treating men humanely and with repsect. Can you hear me Quinton Tarantino? It is time we started working to encourage and empower men rather than incarcerate and disempower them for the sake of the feminist agenda.
On a scale of 1 to 10 with a 10 being best, it is my opinion that Kill Bill sucks in at a zero (0). Due to its premise, I think Kill Bill is completely worthless except for the monetary enrichment it gives to the people who helped make it.
Sincerely, Ray
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Weeellll... You can see these films as feminist claptrap (by which I mean 'feminist'), promoting the image of the 'strong' woman and the weak man... but they also put into people's minds the seed of the idea that women are violent, abusive people, often towards men. It's all a question of perspective, presentation and interpretation. Personally I think that the more images of violent women we have the better, from the point of view of undermining the idea that only men are abusive. People growing up today, regularly exposed to images of violent women, will find it much easier to accept the idea that women can be and are abusive than those who grew up seeing women as Mary who stays at the ranch while the men go out to fight off the Indians (sorry, Thundercloud!).
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Maybe, but the corresponding message that goes along with it is that its justified when they commit violence, and a good "empowering" thing for them to do so. The serial killings Uma's character heroically performs are justified by that lovely piece of fiction, the gang-rape. I call it fiction because I've never once had any guy ever invite me to accompany him to go rape someone, nor have I heard of such a thing. I really can't even imagine it.
"Hello, how are you doing tonight? How was work? I'm trying to get a group of guys together to go kidnap and rape a woman tonight, you in?".
Could this actually work? How many people would not only not call the police, but actually want to join in? I just don't think this ever really happens outside of romance novels and feminist hate-mongering.
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>Could this actually work? How many people would not only not call the police, but actually want to join in? I just don't think this ever really happens outside of romance novels and feminist hate-mongering."
I always thought the idea was the group was already entrenched in the criminal element, it was either a raucous street gang OR such as in The Crow or maybe this movie, mafia-esque employed rapists. I suppose it is POSSIBLE to happen, can't think of any concrete circumstances [Central Park Jogger's rapists were proved innocent via DNA, weren't they?].
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"Personally I think that the more images of violent women we have the better, from the point of view of undermining the idea that only men are abusive."
That's the problem though. These movies do NOT show women as being violent and undermine the idea that only men are violent. These movies promote the idea that women *only* become violent to defend themselves or get revenge against the scores and legions of evil men that abuse them.
R
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I understand what you're saying, but you're thinking too short-term. So many people - certainly in the media - are still at the stage where they can't say 'No' to any kind of feminist bullshit. Basically they're too ignorant and/or too scared. You can see that in the various responses to the Clara Harris case, where there was a general attempt to try to excuse her by blaming the man she killed. It should have been presented as an example of severe domestic violence by a woman against a man, but it wasn't because nobody had the guts to think of doing that. Feminists are very skilled at finding ways to manipulate perceptions of things in order to futher their agenda - such as the idea that a man holding a door for a woman demeans her because it suggests that she can't open the door for herself. You and I would call that courtesy, but feminists have learned the important lesson that nothing has a fixed meaning, and you can always creatively reinterpret something so that it goes from being good to bad, or vice-versa. The men's movement hasn't learnt this yet, and so lumbers on with fixed ideas of right and wrong, good and bad, etc. That's why you accept the feminist interpretation of the behaviour of violent women in films like 'Kill Bill', but just because that's their meaning doesn't mean it's the only meaning. In the future, films like this will be useful amunition in the general criminalisation of feminist ideas. One could argue, for instance, that the men in the film have been set up as bad guys purely to promote the men bad/women good image. Are there any bad women in the film? Are there any good men? The very fact that the film shows men doing 'bad' violence and women doing 'good' violence is misandry because it helps to support the idea that women never do bad violence. Maybe men need to study 'critical theory' and start being creatively critical.
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I think what this *feminized male* produced movie is trying to put in the public mindset is that the image of a strong woman is a woman who is violent in the extreme.
Of course the litmus test to determine if a movie, book, play etc., is misandric is to change the male characters to female and the female characters to male.
If this test were used on this movie (I will not be wasting my time or money to go see rapidly aging misandric and mediocre female movie stars kill men with samuri swords) I have no doubt that reams of newspaper and gallons of ink would be used by the feminized media to condemn this movie to high heavens!
Why would anyone in this age not think that women commit gross violence everyday? For example, most of the deadly abuse committed against helpless children is committed by women. This has been known for some time but society for some reason just doesn't like to be reminded of it. And just today, Sunday, I read this local news article about a woman who brought a gun to church and killed the pastor, her mother and herself.
http://www.wgcltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1469925
Violent women? They are everyplace and have been here forever!
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