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Mere Men
posted by Hombre on Wednesday September 03, @09:04PM
from the another-one-slips-past-the-lace-curtain dept.
The Media This article in The Age discusses in some detail the negative protrayal of men in the media. An interesting tidbit mentioned therein...

"A survey conducted for the ASB in 2002, revealed that while 40 per cent of all complainants thought women were portrayed offensively, 23 per cent were offended by the depiction of men."

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In Spite Of Him (Score:1)
by Uberganger on Thursday September 04, @06:12AM EST (#1)
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Dr Kerry Hempenstall, senior lecturer in psychology at RMIT University, asks “when does positive discrimination towards women, lead to negative impacts for men?”

I think the answer to this question would have to be 'immediately'. All discrimination is positive from somebody's point of view - oh I was forgetting how hard done to women are, but to accept that you have to comletely ignore the lives men were (and still are) expected to lead, usually for the benefit of women and their children. This struck me the other day when I realised that the title of Germaine Greer's 'seminal' work 'The Female Eunuch' is really a terrible conceit. The removal of the testicles and sometimes the penis in order to create a eunuch was a bloody, barbarous act that often resulted in the death of the victim. Nothing women go through, even in Greer's day, remotely compared. But feminism alows women to see themselves as victims without having to actually suffer anything, and from this conceit they derive their phoney 'moral superiority' which underpins their manhating attitudes. Some of you may remember that shortly after 9/11, when some 350 fireMEN died trying to save the lives of others, one female dingbat on TV said "This shows that men can make sacrifices too." Can anyone think of any sacrifice women make that compares to the one those men made? But hey, as long as the girls get to feel smug and superior...

The negative depiction of men and boys in the media is both relentless and predictable. It seems to be an expression of pure spite - a very girly quality. It's good to hear that more and more people are starting to notice and complain about this, but spite being the vicious, ugly creature it is, and women being so good at it, I think it'll be a while before anything changes. Expect the usual crap about 'whinging men' and how much worse it all is for women.
Re:In Spite Of Him (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday September 04, @05:35PM EST (#2)
I notice is pretty blatantly when I turn on the TV, an act which is becoming less and less frequent these days.

      I also notice it when I read stories about crime and see the disparate sentences handed out to women, and in the charges which are brought. While it's true that some states have bad laws, for instance, mine didn't have a law that made it possible for a female to commit rape, nor statutory rape, nor anything other an indecent exposure or contributing to the deliquency of a minor. Both of those were minor offenses compares to the first two. Many states still have gender specific laws in those areas, and prosecutors do have their hands tied behind their backs in those states. But there is no excuse in the ones that have a full set of working laws. It's the prosecutors choice to bring lighter chargers, to ask for less time, and the judges decision to grant it. We all see it every day, and when the media gets involved they bend over backwards to show these women who do horrendously awful things as "victims". If there is a guy anywhere in the picture, even if he's just the person who delivered the TV -- they will try to blame him.

        I notice it in the reporting of crimes in the paper in another way. When the victim is a male, they seldom identify the victim as a male. Instead the headline will be "2 die in car crash", "1 dead in convience store robbery". We know they don't value or lives as much from their omissions.


Re:In Spite Of Him (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday September 04, @09:05PM EST (#3)

Totally true. Men dying is a non-story, because me n are considered disposal. But a woman dying is a real, newsworthy tragedy.
Re:In Spite Of Him (Score:2)
by HombreVIII on Thursday September 04, @10:34PM EST (#4)
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"Totally true. Men dying is a non-story, because me n are considered disposal. But a woman dying is a real, newsworthy tragedy"

Same with a woman being a POW, even if for that woman POW means she was taken to a hospital to be healed after wrecking her jeep, and immediately offered back without asking for anything in exchange.
Re:In Spite Of Him (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Friday September 05, @09:06AM EST (#5)
I've talked to quite a few guys over the last year who (like me) have stopped watching prime time television altogether (unless it's the history channel or a few others)... virtually EVERY ONE of them has cited the way men are treated on TV as the prime factor. What do I have in common with the emmasculated wimps, ass holess and fat idiots that encompass 99% of male characters on sitcoms and "drama's" today? NOTHING... no common experience to draw me into their story, I've got no reason to sympathize or even be interested in what happens to their characters.

Dave K
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