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by Anonymous User on Wednesday July 23, @11:48AM EST (#1)
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The proponents of such discriminatory steps, which are a real denial of male basic human rights should be shot dead in the head.
If they are fascist, they must be treated as fascists.
This is only my opinion anyway, but I'm deadly serious about it.
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... "So to conclude, all extremists should be taken out and shot." 8-)
*rimshot* (please excuse the pun)
Anyway, to the points at hand:
Mr Checa said he wanted to turn Torredonjimeno, near the city of Jaen, into "an international reference point" for sexual equality.
A highly relaxed and political definition of equality I'd think.
The town had previously been governed by the communist-led United Left coalition.
Interesting again - you'd normally expect the political left to concoct this sort of inane sycophancy (I'm assuming the incumbent isn't particularly left of centre). Although, I've seen similarly moronic attitudes resembling this sort of forced-chauvinism from the new'ish-type conservative/right-of-centre movements, mainly to appeal to younger people.
In any case, I would like to hear what the women have to say about this.
men who go to bars in Torredonjimeno between 9pm and 2am
Their bars are open until two on a Friday morning? 8-)
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I'm sorry but when it comes to the defense of basic human rights against a fascist oppressor, the use of violence is not extremist any more, it's totally right and lawful.
Only my opinion.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday July 23, @02:32PM EST (#4)
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I'm all for this - including male policemen. No male policemen on these nights.
If there are a number of men out on the street, in violation of the curfew, let the women policemen handle them.
All for it. I'd love to see it. Maybe I'd join in.
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Obviously you are a pathetic man-hating lesbian, so why bother coming on a men's rights site ? You'd better go to a feminist site so that you can scream your hatred of men with other female chauvinist pigs like you.
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Is it that time of the month love?
Try feminax, its supposed to be an excellent pain killer developed by Men just for women's monthly's or better still Depakote, also developed by Men which surely must have also been for women as its a mood stabaliser for women with personailty disorders such as
bi polar or borderline personality disorder.
PS. I hope thats enough attention for you flower?
Perhaps we should make Depakote compulsory for all women until/unless they can prove emotional stability, what do you think people?
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. . .but I could be wrong too.
However, I think there *is* a solid point here, (even if unintended by the original commentator) -- ARE male police excluded from this law?
Think about it.
Ack!
Non Illegitimi Carborundum, and KOT!
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Yeah, I at first thought it was along the lines of "yeah, let's see them try their high and mighty strong women stuff NOW" but could be read either way. What was the part about joining in referring to? Watching them or dealing with the male violators?
Interesting question too, and for the record, how about male medical emergency staff, or firefighters? Construction [does Spain have evening construction teams?] workers, sanitation/maitenence? the list goes on and on. But I suppose they would be considered drones necessary for service,
*sarcasm* men can apparently only be trusted to work in subservient [to women's interest if not to a woman herself] positions and should not freely socialize with other men and especially women.
This is so intensely ludicrous I'm going to devout another thread to it.
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This is totally anticonstitutionnal according to the Declaration of Human Rights and I'm sure it would be outlawed if sued in the European Court of Justice.
And I don't consider this as a matter of vote. Women account for 52% of voters, and 51% of population in most Western countries. So they could deprive men from all their rights in a democratical process. But basic human rights are not dependent either on vote or on public opinion. No vote could legitimally make Men or Blacks or Jews lose their rights to be free and to be equal to women. If such a vote occured one day, then Men would be morally allowed to pick up weapons and to destroy feminists and fascists, and this despite the results of a so-called democratic process.
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Which should tell people that democracy isn't as flowery and sugary-sweet as people want to think it is. Just ask Socrates.
I'd much rather live in a republic than a democracy. :o)
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on Friday July 25, @03:18AM EST (#34)
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You sound very logical. And perhaps it is the problem we men are facing today : to be logical and sensible, whereas our enemies are not and rather resort to feelings and passion to make one's message heard and indoctrinate the public opinion into male-bashing.
I think that most women, married or not, would see it as a big joke, a big fun, and an possibility to party. This is the way it occured in Bogota, Colombia. A big party, not a discrimination, although it is a blatant one.
Women, even the not feminist ones, are not going to see it as a discrimination.
Nevertheless I think that the women's night happened only once in Colombia in 2001, and hasn't been reimplemented since then.
Rage
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I hope every man goes to a bar with a t-shirt explaining how many hours they work, how many male soldiers have died for Spain, that selective equality (translation: whatevers best for the woman) is no equality as well.
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Problem is : in non English-speaking countries, men aren't even aware that there is a men's movement, so they are likely not to wear a T-shirt, but I think that all this BS could be sued against in the European Court of Justice.
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What is this about steps like this being taken in Boulder as well?
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What is this about steps like this being taken in Boulder as well?
Boulder, Colorado: The town whose library celebrates the mutilation of male genitals.
I don't have a citation, but about five years ago a number of women, most or all associated with the University of Colorado, called for a curfew on men at least one night a week. I figured that wouldn't be the last I'd hear of it, and now the proposal is being implemented in at least two places.
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Are you sure ????? What places ? We should have been told by the mainstream media about it if such measures had been taken in the USA !
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If this piece of "legislation" (term used very usely) goes through, I'll eat my own genitals.
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If this piece of "legislation" (term used very usely) goes through, I'll eat my own genitals.
I understand Rocky Mountain oysters are good with barbecue sauce. :(
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> If this piece of "legislation" goes through, I'll eat my own genitals.
If this piece of "legislation" goes through, I'll make feminists eat their own genitals.
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Are you sure ????? What places ?
At this time the policy has not been implemented in Boulder.
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Are you sure ????? What places ?
There seems to be some confusion over my statement that the policy is being implemented in two places. The two places are Bogota, Colombia, and Torredonjimeno, Spain.
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Here's an article on the same nonsense in Bogota. In that case "There also seem to be a large number of male conscientious objectors, registering their protest at the curfew by breaking it and partying with the women," but I wonder if they had to be properly deconstructed, post-modern femboys. It seems they did need Safe Conduct Passes.
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Following the link you gave, I find this quote concerning this event in Columbia :
"Moreover, next week, we'll have The Men's Night and the following week, The Reunion Night."
Do you know if the male equivalent, the Men's Night, actually took place ?
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Do you know if the male equivalent, the Men's Night, actually took place ?
I don't know.
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They are trying to criminalize being male, punishing millions for the crimes of a few, or perhaps tens. If someone tried that crap in my city I'd protest it, and probably get my attorney involved. (I tell you, people joke about lawyers all the time, but when you need one, they are awesome. Having one available who you know is a great asset.)
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This idea that men must be separated for women's safety becomes more and more clearly the agenda of any feminist. The lesbian separtism, once considered too radical, controversial... god, to call a spade a spade: downright idiotic for rational discussion is bullying and mandating itsef into normality. The gullibility of your average woman in these circumstances is mind-boggling. How can she readily accept the men in her family, that statistically the majority of which are not violent, cannot leave the house during certain hours because they are violent? How can she believe this is good for the community: oppression, resentment, and worst, willful submission for the 'good' of the majority?
That is, perhaps, the most stomach purging aspect; neither the women nor the men under this regime see the evil that lurks behind this beneficial facade. The men willingly give up life and liberty for safety for others - and are awarded with more restrictions! Most don't question the logic behind these events, until they've been pushed away from their jobs, money, families, freedoms by the rabid femifascist purging of "the bad" and eventually all men. By then we've been so convinced to not question their guilt, their evil, that we will not listen to them at all.
How can they allow it?
Sorry this was all so rambly, quite upsetting, bothers me.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday July 24, @03:04AM EST (#26)
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I wish there were more women like you.
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I agree. That was very well said Luna.
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1. If I was planning on assaulting a woman, I'd probably go "hunting" at a time when not only would no men be around to defend her, it would be illegal for any to come to her aid if they heard her scream.
2. The law forgets that not all men live with women, (and thus need to undoubtably catch up in their share of the housework, *gag*), nor have young kids that need to be watched - hint: teens don't like "family night" as much as hanging with their friends.
3. What happens if there's danger to a man in his house, like an armed intruder or a fire? Is it illegal for him to try and flee? Also, what about homeless men?
4. Although its been mentioned in the cases of police and firemen elsewhere, what about men who work non-protection jobs that night? Would they be allowed to work? Would women be more valuable employees automatically simply because they can legally work those Thursday night hours if needed and men cannot? Would bars start firing the men working for them to make room for women?
5. Why not divide the town in half, and make half of it a men-only district. At least then the mayor could claim "seperate but equal". The way he drew it its "seperate without even a pretense of trying to be equal".
6. Why do armed revolts happen if women feel they are paying too much in taxes on their tea, yet not if men are legally robbed of their homes, kids, and up to 40% of their income for decades; if men are taxed to pay for programs designed to benefit primarily women; thrown in jail for hitting on the wrong woman at the wrong time of the month; or locked in their homes so that women can get a break from their presence while walking through the city?
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by Anonymous User on Thursday July 24, @07:20AM EST (#29)
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Exactly.
Single men and gay men are more and more numerous in Western countries, so this bullshit is really nonsense, homework and kids just don't concern them.
Rage
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First hypothesis:
*Western societies=Taliban in Afghanistan
Men Barred From Outdoors in western cuntries
Women Barred From Outdoors in Afghanistan
Second Hypothesis:
*Western societies are worse than Taliban in Afghanistan
Men in Afghanistan were killed for shaving, but in western countries all the attentions were toward the barred women.
Men are barred from outdoors in western countries but women are respected for all things that they do.
You can compare that equality of sexes in afghanistan is more than in western country.
Shame on all of us. Shame on all western countries.
Sorry for my bad English.
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You've all heard of 'Take Back The Night'? We I can gurantee you that its an exact form of this ideal.
They want to lock up men at night, or somehow have them 'controlled'. Don't kid yourselves this has been in the works in North America for years.
Seriously think about it. The solutions to 'Take Back the Night' are either curfews are more police patrols. (Police State). This is all Soviet Russia all over again boys.
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Stalin murdered 30 million people, mostly men. Stalinism is misandry embodied.
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by Anonymous User on Friday July 25, @03:25AM EST (#35)
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More police patrols don't disturb me. As long as I can go out at night if I'm in a mood of going out, it's ok for me. I live in Paris and I can tell you that sometimes I really would like to see more police officers in the streets at night !
Curfew is fascist.
Police patrols, if they don't harass men, are not necessarily a bad thing.
Rage
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Has anyone heard about what happened in Torredonjimeno?
Here's hoping it was a big financial bomb.
I know if they tried that here in Pittsburgh, I'd try to organize a men only "Stay Home from Work on Friday". Shut the place down.
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