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Playboy's Men columnist dies
posted by D on Wednesday June 25, @10:06PM
from the Obituary dept.
The Media Anonymous User writes "Longtime Playboy columnist Asa Baber has died at the age of 66. He often used his column in Playboy to bring men's issues like the wage gap myth and male bashing some public attention. "We men are not the enemy," Baber told Oprah Winfrey's audience a decade ago.

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I never read his articles (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday June 26, @10:31AM EST (#1)

..as I do not subscribe to Playboy. But it sounds like he was a valued contributer in the cultural recognition that men have social issues too...

An interesting point brought up in this article is that women felt "funny" about him sticking up for men (in a time a overt and over the top feminism) - weird.
Re:I never read his articles (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Thursday June 26, @11:50AM EST (#2)
(User #722 Info) http://www.fathersforlife.org/fv/Dan_Lynch_on_EP.htm
I think it would be nice if they compiled a complete collection of his articles. I think it would be a good comercial item as well as boostful of men's issues.

I hope whoever has the copyrights to his work considers this. Perhaps Ferrell can sugest this idea in the future to someone who can do this.

Just as I only go to strip clubs for the articles, it was the same for me with playboy.
I believe this is both a men and women's movement.
A Baber book (Score:2)
by Thomas on Thursday June 26, @12:30PM EST (#3)
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Just as I only go to strip clubs for the articles, it was the same for me with playboy.

I'm glad to hear it, Dan. I've never understood the desire some men have to see beautiful women with their clothes off. EEEEEUW!

(Ridiculousness off)

I have beside me "Naked at Gender Gap," by Asa Baber. It may be the first book on men's issues that I ever bought, and it gave me great comfort to realize that a man, working for a widely circulated magazine, was writing such things. I found it at a booksale by the Boulder Public Library (yes, the same library from which El Dildo Bandito removed the display of ceramic, mutilated male genitals). I've made other good purchases at that sale, over the years, so I know that the library removes a number of good books, but it still strikes me as ironic when I open the front cover and see stamped in bright red letters, all caps, "WITHDRAWN, BOULDER PUBLIC LIBRARY."

It's worth noting that in the introduction to this collection of essays from Playboy, Baber writes "Over the years, though, the climate at the magazine has definitely warmed to the 'Men' column. It is now received with tolerance and humor and enthusiasm in most quarters. The book was published in 1992, while already powerful gender feminism was rapidly growing in strength and influence.

At the opening of the book, Baber wrote:

"Gender Gap: The territory where we all live in a naked and vulnerable condition. The male and the female of the species are situated on separate sides of Gender Gap, each man and each woman yearning to close the distance between the sexes.

"None of us is sure how to do that.

"Life at Gender Gap is hard for men and hard for women. As much as we might wish for it, there is no escape. Its landscape stretches to infinity. It is a place of great temperature extremes, where the wind doesn't blow, it sucks.

"Here's hoping we learn how to live together in Gender Gap with more tolerance and respect for one another."

The passing of Asa Baber is a loss to us all.

Re:A Baber book (Score:2)
by Thomas on Thursday June 26, @12:34PM EST (#4)
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"Over the years, though, the climate at the magazine has definitely warmed to the 'Men' column. It is now received with tolerance and humor and enthusiasm in most quarters. The book was published in 1992, while already powerful gender feminism was rapidly growing in strength and influence.

Sorry, I missed a quotation mark, and confusion should result. That should read, "Over the years, though, the climate at the magazine has definitely warmed to the 'Men' column. It is now received with tolerance and humor and enthusiasm in most quarters." The book was published in 1992, while already powerful gender feminism was rapidly growing in strength and influence.
Embarrassed? (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on Thursday June 26, @03:12PM EST (#5)
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Personally, I'd be more embarrassed to be a woman working for PLAYBOY.


Why? (Score:1)
by Acksiom on Thursday June 26, @10:24PM EST (#6)
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Seriously. Why?

Ack!
Non Illegitimi Carborundum, and KOT!
Re:Why? (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on Friday June 27, @01:14AM EST (#7)
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Well, it was just a throwaway "ha-ha" line, but it was part serious, I guess. Let me put it this way: I don't think I'd work for PLAYGIRL.
Re:Why? (Score:1)
by mcc99 on Friday June 27, @09:57AM EST (#8)
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You bring up an interesting point.

Playboy is a magazine that expresses the power of women-sexuality and using it for personal gains of all kinds- hence why shouldn't women work for it? Playgirl is not the same. Men who pose nude make much less than women (same for adult movies) and the circulation of Playgirl is much less than Playboy and goes to different audiences with different interests. Playgirl is not the same as Playboy sociologically speaking even though they share the common trait of naked people between the covers. This is because gender-based sexuality and power are distributed differently in the culture. Men have a lot less of it than women.
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