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Arabian Paternity Rights
posted by Adam on Wednesday June 18, @07:44AM
from the News-and-stuff dept.
News Neil Steyskal writes "Here's a very tough issue for men's-rights activists. An American women isn't allowed to take her children out of Arabia. Try making the case for the father when he's a representative of such a repressive culture. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.ht ml?id=110003636"

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No need to make a case (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Wednesday June 18, @10:49AM EST (#1)
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It's the same situation here when a foreign father tries to exercise his parental rights against an American woman; in fact, in many cases he is summarily deported without a hearing, and subject to being stripped of (naturalized) citizenship, and denied a future visa. His holdings, however, are still siezed for Child Support.

It hasn't been trumpeted in the press precisely because the analogy to QAmerican men is too close, and the American Pheminist Establishment doesn't care to have their hypocrisy exposed to the light of truth.

How many Saudi-born men have been subject to the other side of that knife? Don't you think that if we start braying about it, they'll be more than happy to open up the debate on that basis?

It is censorship of the media that is causing this to not be reported - but it's at the behest of the pheminazis.

---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
Re:No need to make a case (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday June 18, @01:33PM EST (#4)
Everything that needs to be said has been.
A very tough issue? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday June 18, @11:51AM EST (#2)
Why is this a "very tough issue" for mens rights activists? I don't see American women shedding tears for the appalling injustices suffered by millions of American men. On the contrary, American women were complicit in engineering those injustices and are doing their level to maintain and worsen those injustices.
Re:A very tough issue? (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Wednesday June 18, @02:25PM EST (#5)
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Why is this a "very tough issue" for mens rights activists? I don't see American women shedding tears for the appalling injustices suffered by millions of American men. On the contrary, American women were complicit in engineering those injustices and are doing their level to maintain and worsen those injustices.

I've got very similar sentiments at the gut level.

***BUT***

Sure as God made Little Green Apples, some fem-boy or Pheminut is going to come along, and whine, and cry, and point the finger about how (supply snivelling tone yourself) "You're no better than the feminists!"

Normally, I saw screw 'em, but here's the take for it:

"If we want someone to take the side of women, and women alone, the National Organization of Women is already there with a proven willingness to do so, and a track record of frequently champion women to the exclusion of and/or the expense of men.

We have no interest, therefore, in re-inventing the wheel. If someone is interested in rectifying this, and including men as full, equal, and co-deserving of parental rights, we will be eager to work with them."

Yeah, it's pretty much weaselspeak for "Don't expect us to care unless there is something in it for us. But it sounds so much "nicer" and engages the pheministas at their symbolism over substance modus operandi.

---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
Re:A very tough issue? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday June 18, @02:35PM EST (#6)
Point taken. However, I am increasingly of the view that we must descend to the level of the feminists in order to defeat them. This would include matching them in ruthlessness.
Thought I was original (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday June 18, @01:31PM EST (#3)
I thought I would pop in to add a reply as what I was going to say was going to be original. It seems it isn't. So with that, basically fuck her. Simple.
Why do women do this (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Wednesday June 18, @02:56PM EST (#7)
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Why do women hook up with Arabs and move to countries where their rights aren't even half as much as they are Stateside? I mean, really, what the hell are they thinking?!? Oh, but then this dame is 23 so that means this has been going on for a few years. People are apt to do any stupid thing when they are in their late teens/early twenties.
Tit For Tat? (Score:2)
by Luek on Wednesday June 18, @06:56PM EST (#8)
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""""Why do women hook up with Arabs and move to countries where their rights aren't even half as much as they are Stateside? I mean, really, what the hell are they thinking?!?""""

This statement begs the question of just why do men still go into marriages here in America and Canada evidently believing that they will not wind up in the same feminist inspired misandric divorce courts that at least 50% of men eventually wind up on? They do not have the civil rights or the legal standing of a hog in these insane corrupt courts but still they keep going to the alter.
Why are men still getting married? (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Wednesday June 18, @08:49PM EST (#9)
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>"...why do men still go into marriages here in America and Canada evidently believing that they will not wind up in the same feminist inspired misandric divorce courts..."

I believe that most men have no idea of what is happening to most other men in the courts. Where would they get all this info if they aren't specifically looking for it?

Dittohd

Re:Tit For Tat? (Score:1)
by cshaw on Thursday June 19, @06:51AM EST (#10)
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In North America, males are definitely an oppressed group in many ways. North American males have not organized effectively in a courageous manner to break the chains of their oppression but they are taking individual steps to fight the same including emigrating, refusing to serve in the military, refusing to marry, and engaging in dialogue. If this continues, the feminist society which denigrates them will collapse. However, in many, if not most, other countries,including many Muslim countries, females are definitely an oppressed class. The extent of this unjust oppression of females in many countries is unimaginable both to American males and females who are used to the aforementioned oppression of males as the norm. I condemn oppression of any class of individuals, including females but this implies equal rights concomittant with equal repsonsibilities which is the foundation of the men's movement. I believe that the Men's Movement should fight feminism with courage and justice as courage without justice is not a virtue.
C.V. Compton Shaw
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