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Remember that article the next time you hear a woman say "Men are big and tough and can take it" in regards to domestic violence.
If women have such a higher tolerance pain, then they can take violence better than men can.
So quit your whining and take it like a woman!
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on Monday May 19, @03:32PM EST (#2)
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Agreed. The logical conclusion is that violence against men should be regarded as more serious than violence against men.
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On the other hand!
http://www.observer.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,9 10337,00.html
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http://www.observer.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,9 10337,00.html
Doesn't work for me. Are you sure it has a space in it?
Tim
Those who like this sort of thing
will find this the sort of thing they like.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 21, @06:34PM EST (#16)
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get rid of the space and it works.
(Wow, it's AngryHarry!)
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So, my tongue says to the other muscles in my body:
"Hah! Hah! According to scientists, I'm way stronger than any of you are!"
"Oh, really?" say the other muscles. "Well, good, than how about you help us carrying heavy stuff around from now on?"
"Oh, no. Sorry!" replies my tongue. "My extra strength must be used solely for chewing. Because it's a more important job than the grunt work you guys do."
"Oh, humph," groan the other muscles.
Gives new meaning to when scientists say muscles are formed in antagonistic groups...
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OK, so they can take pain better. Shouldn't, then, they be the soldiers?
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My martial arts instructors have told me that women have greater tolerance for INTERNAL pain. But when the damage comes from the outside (i.e. a punch or a kick) men have an advantage.
When I first took a shot to the solar plexus, it caused my lungs to "reset." I could not breathe, as my diaphragm had forced all the air out of my lungs and refused to budge. So I sat down for a moment, then stood back up (my instructor told me to). He ran his fingers up and down the channels of my upper spine, which restored breathing very quickly. And that was it. I moved on. The same thing happened to a female student and she cried for like 2 minutes, on the floor, curled up in the fetal position. Greater pain tolerance? Around the birth canal, maybe.
Men have more endurance, higher cardiovascular throughput, can sustain greater injuries, and have more powerful natural weapons. Chalk that up to billions of years of natural selection. We don't have any mechanism for coping with childbirth pains because we don't need any.
My mom likes to say that all fetuses start off as females, with a smirk. Like being male is some kind of deviation from purity. I consider being male as a whole-body upgrade. Not that I'd say that to her though, LOL!
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1) All fetuses start off as females, and then God realizes his mistake and the testicles descend to their proper location.
2) All fetuses have their sex determined at the moment of conception and written in their DNA. Being 'female' for a few months is merely a temporary handicap.
Please pass this along to your mother.
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Haha, you made me laugh. :) I do love the female body, but I'm glad to have something sturdier for myself.
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Agrred. And more rational. :)
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All fetuses start off as females, and then God realizes his mistake and the testicles descend to their proper location
Or, as I like to think of it, all fetuses start off female, but some of them make the cut and get to play on the varsity team!
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Ask any man who has ever passed a kidney stone about pain. He could write volumes about pain.
Hell, for that matter, ask any woman who has passed a stone. Most women I've spoken with who have had stones have admitted they'd rather give birth to triplets than pass one stone again.
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday May 20, @02:57PM EST (#8)
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Sure, it is possible that there is some biological factor that aids women in taking pain. But there are MANY other factors. These would include the psychological, which might be labelled the "wussiness" factor. Most women I know wouldn't be able to take a punch simply because they don't think they can.
Or using the dentist example from the article, I remember getting two wisdom teeth pulled and driving home afterwards. I had to pull over occasionally to spit out blood because my mouth was full. And this is nothing compared to my father who always refused anasthetic (including on root canals) because he "wanted to know what was going on."
Most of the women I know don't stand up quite as well at the dentist.
Garth
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I don't trust any of this type of "research." It has a bad smell of the agenda-driven. Psychology and biology have, to a large extent, become tools for the spreading of feminist propaganda. This may well be no more than the result of advocacy research.
I wonder what physics and math will be like, once they're fully feminized.
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Yeah, I'm suspicious of some of these "research" findings on gender topics. The media give them supportive and prominent coverage. Academic feminists are more interested in generating propaganda and indoctrinating young people than in doing objective research.
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I agree if you take a look at the kind of research they were doing about racial traits before WW2 you will find very similar "findings".
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday May 20, @10:33PM EST (#11)
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I already know certain, let's call them "morons", will take this idea and run with it saying that women should be allowed in NHL, NBA, combat, blah blah blah.
But of course what these "morons" don't realize is that there is also something, let's call them "balls", which may make someone more willing to SUBJECT THEMSELF TO A PAINFUL SITUATION, you know, "take one for the team", etc..
So this article doesn't really say that much, "balls" beats felt pain anyday, and that's my .02
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This is the article that Angry Harry suggested we read. This article states, "Experiments have shown that while female mice also have a lower pain tolerance than male mice, when the female's oestrogen is removed, the differences reduce.
"Likewise, according to Linda LeResch, research professor in oral medicine and pain specialist at the University of Washington, pain differences in humans do not seem to register in young boys and girls, and they also taper off in later years."
So it's estrogen (among other things) that causes females to have a lower pain threshold.
But the article that was reference in the opening to this thread states, in reference to why women allegedly (according to the article) have a higher tolerance for pain, "The secret weapon? Estrogen."
So women have a higher threshold for pain because of estrogen and women have a lower threshold for pain because of estrogen.
The fundamental research behind these reports may or may not be sound, but the journalism that leaps at the opportunity to make such reports is, in my mind, very suspect.
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So women have a higher threshold for pain because of estrogen and women have a lower threshold for pain because of estrogen. I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that...
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