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Escape from the war on men?
posted by Adam on Wednesday May 14, @11:26AM
from the Maculinity dept.
Masculinity MrDave writes "Communist leader Leon Trotsky observed, 'You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.' ... A perfect view of the war on men ... In the 1930's, in Germany, perceptive Jews escaped to England, Canada, Australia, South Africa, or the USA, fleeing the war of death on their horizon ... Today, where can men escape the war on us?? ... Nowhere in the USA is safe ... Male-bashing is endemic in Canada, Australia, and the U.K. ... I have stopped trying to stem the tidal wave of anti-man attitudes ... I have come to the conclusion that stoping it is impossible ... Now I simply want to get away from this war on men ... Is there any place, anywhere, where a man can escape?" While I did post about such a place in the first Ask Ads announcement, running away will only make things get much worse.

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Try Pattaya (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (f8@tpg.com.au) on Wednesday May 14, @08:16PM EST (#1)
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:-)
Those who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
Interesting (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Wednesday May 14, @08:45PM EST (#2)
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Because its communists who I think are waging the war with men.

How Canada has become so much like Mother Russia.

Anyone can be accused of a crime at anytime with out the slightest bit of proof.


It is not the Patriarchy that uses rape to control women, it is Feminism, that uses rape to control women.
Re:Interesting (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 14, @11:37PM EST (#5)
"Anyone can be accused of a crime at anytime with out the slightest bit of proof."

Not only can they be accused they are judged and sentenced according to gender. When judges can dictate to elected politicians what laws to make there is something seriously wrong.

-Andrew74

Re:Interesting - The Communists' war on men (Score:2)
by MrDave (One_man (-at-) fastmail (-dot-) FM) on Thursday May 15, @04:22AM EST (#6)
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Dan -
There is much to think about in your observation.

A recent essay on FrontPageMag.com comes to a similar conclusion ... from a wider perspective ... all of the multi-cultural, diversity, politically correct, and feminist ideas are founded on Marxist thinking ... We are in nothing less than all-out war on American culture.

The web page for that essay is ... http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.a sp?ID=7732

. - Mr. Dave . . . Reno, Nevada, USA
Re:Interesting (Score:1)
by cshaw on Thursday May 15, @09:53AM EST (#10)
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I believe in the ethical proposition that: "What goes around comes around." The more definitive terminologies for the same are the "categorical imperative" and the "hypothetical imperative." Those who mistreat males in North American society will, eventually, face retribution for the same, given the aforementioned ethical principles, in my opinion. For example, the most common emigrant from the USA is an "educated male." On the other hand, the USA has witnesses a catastrophic flood of both illegal and legal immigrants whose quality is disasterously low. This, in fact, has and will continue to denigrate the vaule of US citizenship which will, eventually result, in the collapse of the USA and the society which granted the right to vote to females. I have traveled throughout the world. The country that I have found most friendly to males, in my opinion, is Australia, although it, too, is not as friendly as it used to be. That is the country which I would prefer to emigrate to. In almost all countries outside of the USA, including Canada, I have found women much more respectful and egalitarian.
C.V. Compton Shaw
Run Away? Stay and Fight? (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Wednesday May 14, @10:32PM EST (#3)
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>"Now I simply want to get away from this war on men ... Is there any place, anywhere, where a man can escape?"

"...while I did post about such a place in the first Ask Ads announcement, running away will only make things get much worse."

I'm confused. Are you advocating running away or staying and fighting?

I don't remember your first post where you suggest an alternative. Can you supply a link to it?

What is an "Ask Ads Announcement"? I saw this phrase for the first time about a week ago when referred to in a posting by the web site manager, but still don't know what it refers to.

Sorry, I guess I'm still just a greenhorn here.

Dittohd

Re:Run Away? Stay and Fight? ... Confusion (Score:2)
by MrDave (One_man (-at-) fastmail (-dot-) FM) on Thursday May 15, @04:25AM EST (#7)
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Dittohd -

Thank you for asking:

I did NOT write anything that said:
"...while I did post about such a place in the first Ask Ads announcement, running away will only make things get much worse."

How that got tacked onto the bottom of my post, I have no idea.
. - Mr. Dave . . . Reno, Nevada, USA
Stay and Fight? Yes! (Score:1)
by Adam H (adam@mensactivism.org) on Thursday May 15, @09:36AM EST (#9)
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I'm confused. Are you advocating running away or staying and fighting?

Check the title of this comment for your answer.

I don't remember your first post where you suggest an alternative. Can you supply a link to it?

Alright, it's comment 3 here but next time, hit that search button.

What is an "Ask Ads Announcement"?

Are you yanking my chain for a cheap laugh or something? Ok, see that search button in the upper right hand corner? type in "Ask Ads" and you'll find out.

Sorry, I guess I'm still just a greenhorn here.

"I was green, that's my excuse!"
Terrorvision, Perserverance

Great song that.
Re:Search Button (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Thursday May 15, @02:55PM EST (#12)
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Thanks.

Now I remember the "Ask Ads."

As far as using the search button, I use it sometimes, but more often than not when I use it, (not just on this website) I get thousands of hits and find it really annoying. Plus on many websites, the hits I get often don't even seem to relate to my search words or phrase. And each website has it's own boolean rules which makes things even more annoying. And then trying to find the one hit I'm looking for among hundreds or thousands of hits with my slow 56K modem connection is a royal hassle. In fact, it's more often more trouble than it's worth. I would probably use the search function more often if I had a zippo cable connection.

Man! I was just looking for a little clarification and assistance. Sometimes some guys start to sound like women in their posts. You are the mother and everyone else is the child? I come on this website to get away from my wife's often condescending attitude. Then I have to listen to this?

Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me for not being as sharp and as smart as you!

Dittohd

P.S. (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Wednesday May 14, @10:54PM EST (#4)
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Are you "Dave100254"?

If not, did you see my posting about a week and a half ago about the Free State Project?

If not, here's a link to the website.

Do you think this is a good idea, short of moving to the Orient? I'm very seriously considering both as possible alternatives. So far, my possibilities overseas are presently either the Philippines or China.

Anybody here been considering any other possibilities? If so, what are they and why did you choose them?

Dittohd

Free State Project (Score:2)
by MrDave (One_man (-at-) fastmail (-dot-) FM) on Thursday May 15, @04:30AM EST (#8)
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Dittohd -

Thank you very much for posting about the Free State Conference.
I followed the link provided and found
information about the Free State Conference in Missoula, Montana, May 24-25.

I have made travel reservations to be there.
. - Mr. Dave . . . Reno, Nevada, USA
Re:Free State Project -5/24-25 (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Thursday May 15, @03:03PM EST (#13)
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Super.

Let us know afterward what happened there and how it went. Also, were you convinced to join the movement?

Dittohd

Don't run away (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday May 15, @10:53AM EST (#11)
Fight it!

Running away is just the cowards way out.

Look at it this way,

Blacks came from being ACTUAL slaves, to being allowed to vote, go to school, etc..

Blacks still have to put up with a lot of crap, no doubt, but theres no denying that they came a long way.

Surely if blacks can go from being slaves to citizens, men can too be treated fairly some day.
Re:Don't run away (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Thursday May 15, @03:13PM EST (#14)
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You are right, of course, except the part of leaving being the cowards way out. Not everyone wants to wait forever for results. Especially us guys who are over 50 and more than likely won't be around in another 40 years to enjoy the fruits of our labor.

Besides, going where men are respected rewards the good guys, and I can't see a whole lot wrong with that. Rewarding bad behavior just encourages more of the same.

Dittohd

P.S. - Don't Run Away (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Thursday May 15, @03:21PM EST (#15)
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And besides, how many dates with good-looking, respectful, fun-loving, non-golddigging women am I going to get at the age of 90?

Right now, I'm more focused on enjoying the years I've got left. I want to change things for the better, but at this stage of the game, it's #2 on my set of priorities, and I don't feel that makes me a coward. Just practical. (And male!).

Dittohd

Escape from the war on men (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday May 17, @10:44AM EST (#16)

The best response to anti-male attitudes and the work of hate groups like NOW is to:
1. Succeed. Men have been responsible for virtually all human achievement. Rather than focusing on the hate, focus on meeting your goals.
2. Keep your money. Think twice before marrying! If you do marry, make sure you have maximal legal protections against your spouse making off with your hard-earned money, just because she may have grown tired of you.
3. Support masculine culture. Never let anyone tell you that masculine values are wrong. Support the values of toughness, intelligence, innovation, loyalty and independence.
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