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Where Are the Men on Campus?
posted by Thomas on Tuesday April 29, @12:59PM
from the Education dept.
Education Tatis writes "This article, co-authored by Philip W. Cook and Glenn Sacks, examines some of the causes for the decline of male college enrollments. Males comprise only 43% of all college students nationwide. It was just published in the book Abuse Your Illusions: The Disinformation Guide to Media Mirages and Establishment Lies (published by The Disinformation Company)."

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feminism does work (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday April 29, @03:17PM EST (#1)

Look at what it has done to the young men in this country... very sad.

Practice 0% tolerance for female sexist hate, it is everywhere today...

feminism is over sexism, stop the lies.

I know where THIS college male is... (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Tuesday April 29, @10:43PM EST (#2)
(User #573 Info)
Hiding out in his apartment and hoping he never makes the mistake of going on campus during a "Take Back The Night" event...
Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @01:32AM EST (#3)
So... since you're a college male, one of the few, do you have have any trouble getting dates?

I've noticed that a few articles on the 'disappearing men' on campus try to touch-on how wonderful it is for a college male to be surrounded by all those wonderful Goddesses.

Are you swimming in tits and ass? Do you have to beat-off women with a stick? Are you getting laid every night? Or is it as big a flippant lie as I suspect it is?
Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @02:10AM EST (#4)
Well, I'm a college male, and I couldn't tell you if the nookie is as readily forthcoming as it is purported to be. Why?

Because I HAVE HAD IT WITH COLLEGE WOMEN. TO HELL WITH THEM! OK, maybe that's a bit much, but they are perhaps the most deluded, self righteous, anti-male (though they generally won't admit it) sadists that I have ever had the complete displeasure of coming into close contact with. They only approve of men who disapprove of themselves. It is really quite sick and disturbing.

But alas! I won't let feminism chase me away. I won't be a casualty of its hate! If I have to work twice as hard to get the same doctoral degree, so be it. It builds character.

-hobbes

Totally off topic, but we're reading "The Chalice and the Blade" in one of my philo classes, and am wondering if anyone has some witty arguments they would like me to throw out in the next class discussion... It should be interesting.
Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @08:12AM EST (#6)
I've never read the book though I know the genre it belongs to is that of fabricated feminist histories. There is no evidence that Neolithic peoples worshipped a Godess above all others, nor is there any evidence that they lived in matriarchal societies. None of the primitive hunter-gatherer peoples remaining today behave in this way.

Books like The Chalice and the Blade tell us nothing about history. They tell us something about a modern political movement.

cheers,
Tim

Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @08:43AM EST (#7)
Totally off topic, but we're reading "The Chalice and the Blade" in one of my philo classes, and am wondering if anyone has some witty arguments they would like me to throw out in the next class discussion... It should be interesting.

This piqued my curiosity and I found a couple of old posts on usenet which might have some ideas worth throwing.

http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UT F-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=383t6c%2499%40italy.eng.sc.rolm. com&rnum=4

and the reply

http://groups.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UT F-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=9410202055591.DLITE.blakleyj%40d elphi.com

cheers,
Tim


Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @11:15PM EST (#15)
Thanks for the info, Tim. I absolutely love debating feminist crap in the classroom - if for no other reason than it lets the prof. know that at least one student can see through the lies and isn't afraid to speak up.

-hobbes
From a Different College Student (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @03:17AM EST (#5)
LOL, As another college male that it was one of the funniest things I have ever heard. Maybe it was my imagination, but it seemed that most women avoided and/or ignored me until I started working out. And even now, I'm not "swimming in tits and ass." I think your suspicion is right.
Sean #2
Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Wednesday April 30, @12:05PM EST (#10)
(User #573 Info)
This college is in the Los Angeles area so naturally it's suffused with women who have the "I'm a superstar / Every male must want to rape me" complex. You get into an elevator alone with one of them and she looks at you like you're Charles Manson. It's not QUITE as bad as in the closer suburbs, but it's still got that "flavor." I look at some of the ladies who don't walk around with that arrogant chip on their shoulders, and sometimes they look back at me. But I don't do this often. For some reason I'm not very interested right now.
Re:I know where THIS college male is... (Score:1)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Thursday May 01, @08:21AM EST (#16)
(User #661 Info)
Hiding out in his apartment and hoping he never makes the mistake of going on campus during a "Take Back The Night" event...

Just for grins, about ten years ago I showed up at a "Women's Self defense" class. Believe it or not, they actually welcomedd men, just so the (BULL DYKE) teaching the class could call them out to "Come get her" and embarass them.

Heh. Since I hold Black belts in Hapkido, Isshun-ryu Karate, and have been trained in Jui-Jitsu and various weapons styles, I was hoping she'd want the biggest guy there to come out. I wasn't wrong or disappointed. Her nipples got hard at the idea of taking a 7 foot, 300# man down.

Make a long story short, I put on the padded monkey suit, and even in that thing I whupped her ass. I bounced her all over that mat like she was a plush animal.

She closed the class to men after that.

---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
Men on Campus (Score:1)
by incredibletulkas on Wednesday April 30, @10:13AM EST (#8)
(User #901 Info)
There are plenty of incidents in which men are treated like crap in colleges by women and faculty alike on the basis of their gender,
while likewise college is more and more being realized for the nude-emperor sham that it is by entrepreneurs who realize that you don't need to study Music Appreciation to run a construction franchise etc.

Meanwhile women are the ones who are killing themselves and hocking their futures for brownie-points which will take years out of their lives, however women tend to be even greater slaves to external validation (compare women's expenditures on cosmetic surgery compared to men's) and security v. risk, and thus tend toward the most glutted and boring routine professions like doctors, lawyers etc. which sound prestigous but aren't exactly new or cutting-edge.

So it's just like divorce-- they're just getting out of a situation where you're overworked, underpaid, totally unappreciated and treated like shit.

Re:Men on Campus (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @07:55PM EST (#13)
It is still definitely better to go to college. Don't let anyone suggest to a young man that he is better off out of college. The truth is doctors and lawyers are damn important, and also well-paid. In fact the three fields women go into, law, healthcare, and education, are the three areas in which men are most screwed over.


Re:Men on Campus (Score:2)
by Thomas on Wednesday April 30, @08:03PM EST (#14)
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the three fields women go into, law, healthcare, and education, are the three areas in which men are most screwed over.

My God, is that an insight! Yes, college is extremely important. Maybe a degree in English, women's studies, or music history won't get most people very far, but computer science (generally best learned in school), physics, chemistry, biology, law, medicine, finance, accounting: The list goes on and on.
Group Showers! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @10:42AM EST (#9)
Group showers! Men in college dorms must endure group showers! Women have stalls!
Re:Group Showers! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 30, @07:19PM EST (#11)
Okay,
THAT'S when, intsead of useing the showers provided, You go down and bathe in the local CREEK, or something.
LOL!

-Thundercloud.
Re:Group Showers! (Score:2)
by Thomas on Wednesday April 30, @07:30PM EST (#12)
(User #280 Info)
The group showers never bothered me. I just don't care. I've heard, though, that a lot of young guys today are bothered by them. I guess, if you're insecure about your body, group showers could be a problem.

But don't women, even if they have separate shower stalls, walk around in the locker room naked? Or do they have large enough stalls that they can change in them as well as showering in them? I haven't thought about this in the past, but now I'm curious.
Re:Group Showers! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday May 01, @12:52PM EST (#17)
This always reminds me of the urinals versus cubicles arguments in men and women's toilets. It is often claimed that architects/designers etc are sexist when designing toilets in public venues since they design equal space for men and women. However, you can cram more men in and quicker via urinals. Thus, at any major event, there are frequently long queues for the female toilets. I've also read articles about the supposed privilege of peeing standing up and of urinals.

I've always wondered if men had a series of private cubicles for toilets, but women were forced to expose their genitals at close proximity with other women (often almost rubbing shoulders) whilst peeing publicly, who would be considered the privileged gender.

As usual, no matter what the situation, men are made out to be the benefactors of this situation.

I did enjoy recently watching a rather assertive young lady being physically thrown out of the men's toilets in a nightclub when she entered and announced that she wasn't waiting in the queue at the Women's. Two guys blocked her way and told her they'd be arrested if they tried the same thing - 30 secs later, she was being pushed (albeit a bit jokily) out of the door. The best bit? All the other guys giving a mini cheer and a few rather impolite suggestions as to where she could go!
Re:Group Showers! (Score:2)
by Thomas on Thursday May 01, @03:50PM EST (#18)
(User #280 Info)
I did enjoy recently watching a rather assertive young lady being physically thrown out of the men's toilets in a nightclub when she entered and announced that she wasn't waiting in the queue at the Women's. Two guys blocked her way and told her they'd be arrested if they tried the same thing - 30 secs later, she was being pushed (albeit a bit jokily) out of the door. The best bit? All the other guys giving a mini cheer and a few rather impolite suggestions as to where she could go!

The kraken wakes.
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