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Men's Activist Page in France
posted by D on Sunday February 23, @03:26PM
from the International-Activists dept.
Web Links This is a French website for men's activists around the world.

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Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by dave100254 on Sunday February 23, @07:35PM EST (#1)
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It looks like a slick advertisement home page. Of course, I am remiss in that I do not speak French, even though it is part of my ancestrial line. Nothing like Mensactivism.org!
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by rage on Monday February 24, @08:52AM EST (#2)
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Actually there are some Urls for some Men's rights sites. For instance l'après rupture is the biggest organization dealing with men's rights in Canada, with a pretty radical tone, and www.sos-divorce.org is a French organization well-known here in France, but dealing only with matters of divorce, as there is less sexism towards men in France than in Anglo-saxon countries. So you have my sympathy for your courageous fight in your mad country. We French people are always astonished by the women portrayed in US Television, who are so agressive towards their male counterparts, such things do not exist in France and in not-English-spoken Europe.


Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by dave100254 on Monday February 24, @10:59AM EST (#3)
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"Such things do not exist in France, and not-English spoken Europe." Actually there is historical implications to what you said. Look what they did to the Irish, now they are using a gender war to divide the masses. England, Australia, Canada, U.S.of A. There is a pattern.
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday February 24, @04:07PM EST (#7)
" look what *they* did to the Irish etc. "
            Who are the "they" you are referring to?
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by dave100254 on Monday February 24, @11:51PM EST (#9)
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The they that I was referring to would be the ruling class of the society. It is no secret that British landowner agents helped create the turmoil in Ireland. It is also no secret that a people divided is easier to control. All one has to do is follow the money trail. Old money, old families. Study American history, people have been oppressed, kept down, and denied their Constitutional rights as a matter of status. Who would they be?
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday February 25, @08:39AM EST (#11)
Yes, but I don't think there is a link between the ruling classes of the nineteenth century and to-days feminists. Feminists are left wing and socialist. The foundation of feminism is a left wing media and anti-men laws formulated by left-wing socialists.
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by Uberganger on Monday February 24, @11:29AM EST (#4)
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We French people are always astonished by the women portrayed in US Television, who are so agressive towards their male counterparts, such things do not exist in France and in not-English-spoken Europe.

A while ago I read an article somewhere which said that feminism was hampered in many countries by the strongly gendered nature of their languages. English-speaking cultures may make associations between certain words and the sexes, but a language such as French has gender built into it at a very deep level. This makes it much harder to redefine the genders in the way that feminism has to in order to demonise the male.
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by rage on Monday February 24, @01:15PM EST (#5)
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> but a language such as French has gender built into it at a very deep level.

You're right. Like in Italian, Spanish, German, and most languages of the western world, French has really made a deep distinction between the sexes. But feminists in France don't want to make the language more neutral, because they are aware that it would be an empoverishment of our language.

It's pretty funny to notice that in Finnish (Finland's language), he or she do not exist. This language is totally neutral and when you speak of a person with somebody, there's no way to know his/her gender...unless you specifically ask for it.
Some feminists have said that this kind of language was a good thing to achieve their so-called equality between the sexes....Scandinavian countries and Finland especially are probably the countries where the women are the most in charge in the world, besides the president of Finland is a woman. But this has nothing in common with the hateful American feminism, which is for a big part some kind of racism against men.

But do not worry : more and more men throughout the world are beginning to realize that the sexism is a two-way thing, and that males can also be discriminated.

Until recently, like most French people, I was anti-American. But now I know what you brothers are going through in America because of the female sexist pigs, so I changed my mind as far as american white males are concerned.

Re:Am I missing something? (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Monday February 24, @03:26PM EST (#6)
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I know that in quebec , Canada, things are very sexist towards men. I wonder why there is a slight difference?
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by rage on Monday February 24, @04:39PM EST (#8)
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In Québec, there is as much sexism against males as in the USA.

In France and in latin-Europe, there is also some kind of sexism against males, but nothing compared to what I read on this site concerning the position of men in the US.

Perhaps European people are more tolerant and less radical than north-american people, it's probably a matter of culture and historical past....after all, the US were born less than 250 years ago, countries like France were already inhabited 10 000 years ago with both political and economic systems already working at that time.

Europe has learnt much from the mistakes made during its very long history, especially through the numerous and painful wars it has experienced, and so people have become more tolerant and more balanced in their ideas.

That's obviously not the same thing in the USA.


Re:Am I missing something? (Score:1)
by dave100254 on Tuesday February 25, @12:06AM EST (#10)
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To ignore cancer is to invite death. You mention France, and Latin Europe as a bastion of equal rights for males. Do not ignore the globalization that is taking place daily. In order for globalization to work the member nations of the U.N. have to be the same. It is only a matter of time before legislation in your country mirrors that of Quebec, and the U.S. Your countrys' history also shows that when people become complacent bad things happen. Please don't let culture and pride in ones' history turn into ignorance, and eventually lament.
Re:Am I missing something? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 26, @01:17AM EST (#12)
>Until recently, like most French people, I was anti-American.

I am an American kid, now in college. I used to be sort of anti-American as a teenager, and I had alot discontent with "the system". Looking back, I now realize it was mostly just a rebellion against the gender bias I had to put up with in school, and in speeches by politicians, and biased corporate scholarships etc. etc. etc.
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