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Gracious. How sad. This man had bi-polar disorder and the false arrest and imprisonment pushed him to the point of hanging himself with his shirt. When will we begin to see the severe punishment that accompanies false accusation?
I have to wonder if it was women who were being falsely accused how long this would be tolerated.
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I hope she feels more wretched than anything for causing the imprisonment and death of an innocent man. Horrible.
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> I hope she feels more wretched than anything
> for causing the imprisonment and death of an
> innocent man. Horrible.
I actually know how some (not all) feminists feel about suicide of falsely accused men or suicide of men over child support. I have read their posts on Usenet on the issue. Their basic idea is that "the women would not have to deal with a suicidal nut" and that "something good may come out of his horrible action."
In other words, it someone wants to drive you to suicide and you commit it, then he/she would not regret it a bit.
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
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"In other words, it someone wants to drive you to suicide and you commit it, then he/she would not regret it a bit."
Maybe if someone took a bat to the scumbag's head then maybe she'll have a bit of regret.
I think Tom is dead on, if women were charged anything like men on these issues these things would never take place.
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"Maybe if someone took a bat to the scumbag's head then maybe she'll have a bit of regret."
That would be exactly what she deserves.
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It could have been a mistaken id rather than a vicious lie.
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"It could have been a mistaken id rather than a vicious lie."
Shows you how easy it is.
In regards to Jamie Nelson who spent 3 years in prison fighting his innocence. The police never even charged her for the malicious lies she said about Jamie. If nobody does anything about the false accusation industry we have people may just start taking the law into their own hands. Who can blame them?
Personaly I think thats why so many guys are coming out of jail and killing their estranged wives. Not because they are evil male patriarchs but because of the injustices that have been acosted to the man. End rant.
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Even if it is a mistaken ID, it has caused a man's death. She should be joining the fight against false information that results in rape investigations, if ONLY for guilt. People who've committed experiments on animals go the opposite extreme of becoming animal rights advocates out of well deserved guilt - if it is only guilt that motivates them, personal experience would give them authority.
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> If nobody does anything about the false accusation
> industry we have people may just start taking the
> law into their own hands. Who can blame them?
I think that being falsely convicted of a crime is an extremly traumatic experience. Very few people understand HOW TRAUMATIC it can be.
What is far more traumatic is being forced to ADMIT the guilt when you are innocent. And those convicted of DV and sex offenses have to.
It's like being tortured for years. Psychological torture can be as bad as physical.
Some people commit crimes of revenge simply because the experience made them insane. Others do so because they can not accept an extreme punishment for no crime. Others feel they were destroyed and have nothing to loose by going to prison.
I am 100% against violence, but I can understand how any torture victim -- be it an abused wife, an abused child, or a man tortured in prison can be driven to it.
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
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Is Wade Evan Deemer an adequate martyr for the cause of "unsubstantiated" accusations of rape and other sexual abuse?
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Beware of taking the police's word that an inmate or an accused prisoner just up and committed suicide. These suicides could be murders by the police. Accused sexual offenders get very rough treatment from the fuzz in comparison to other offenders.
The cops are not 'man's best friend!'
They are charged with carrying out the gender feminists political agendas against men in general and unfortunately most relish their jobs in this regard.
Don't trust anything they say!
And if you are arrested or just questioned while not under arrest never say anything that will come back to haunt you.
Better yet just say, "I have nothing to say" to everything they ask you.
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First, let me state that I feel sad for this man.
However, I feel that we are letting our frustration and legitimate anger at parts of the justice system get ahead of us.
Consider the following: Perhaps the lady involved really believed this man raped her. It was dark, she couldn't see well. Perhaps her attacker smelled funny.
A day or so later, a confused, scared, dazed female victim is taken to the local police lineup.
She has perhaps a few eligible suspects paraded in front of her (or perhaps only this poor guy). He's a bum, obviously could have smelled funny that night. (Alchohol? Drugs?) Looks somewhat like the (vague ? ) impressions she had of her attacker that night. Perhaps he's even looked at her in a funny (lustful?) way before.
Anyway, believing she has her rapist she picks him. Off to jail he goes, to await a trial. Resting at home , her ideal over for now ( or so she thinks) she learns the horrible truth. I wouldn't waste my time hating this poor woman if reality was anything like the scenerio I've presented here.
And it may very well be. One thing I am sure of: there are literally thousands (if not tens of thousands) of men in prison now for rapes they did not commit. When you add the general description "sexual offense" I bet the number stretches to the one or two hundred thousand marks.
Why? Well it isn't entirely due to the phenomenon of feminine deceit that we've beaten to death. And it isn't entirely due to court decisions like that abomination in California. No, lots of it is due to simple errors in the way police collect evidence. Most importantly the "lineup" for eye-witness i.d.
I don't know if you chaps are following the news lately, but in the last year or so, research has revealed for all to see the faults of the standard procedure for identification as well as the many tricks the mind plays when faced with ambiguous information. Due to this , some police departments have started to revise the way they conduct identification proceedings.
However, as one may guess, that leaves alot of improperly convicted criminals. And a lot of victims who unwittingly have victimised someone else. This is a tragedy, but justice is finally catching up with these incorrect convictions, though slowly. D.N.A. evidence cuts both ways. You think it showed some surprising information on paternity? Just wait till they start applying it to past rape convictions....
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I COULD be convinced that this was just a random event, spawned possibly by the man's mental illness and 'legitimate' confusion on the part of the 'victim.' But more than anything else, I'm convinced that this man's arrest came as a result of the police department's over-zealous approach to responding to the feminists' demand for 'results' in closing rape cases. I suggest that there may well have been other evidence that suggested that this man was not the perpetrator.
Further, I suggest that this man committed suicide because he believed his situation was hopeless, that he would be going to prison no matter the reality of his innocence, and that suicide was his only acceptable option. This man was apparently convinced that he would not get a fair trial, and THAT, my friends, is a true tragedy.
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They are charged with carrying out the gender feminists political agendas against men in general and unfortunately most relish their jobs in this regard.
Don't trust anything they say!
And if you are arrested or just questioned while not under arrest never say anything that will come back to haunt you.
Better yet don't say anything except a basic proclamation of innocence. Repeat that you are innocent 10,000 times if you must but say nothing else. If the police pretend to be your friend then be scared…very scared….. If you are being questioned then keep silent. Say nothing. That is your only protection. That is because the police will lie to you, trick you, and try to force a confession. They don't care about your innocence.
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Disclaimer: My statements are intended to be personal opinion, belief, sarcasm, or allegation.
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"That is because the police will lie to you, trick you, and try to force a confession. They don't care about your innocence."
Cops like to get yourside of the story because it helps them in their prosicution. If the DA knows what your defence is, he/she will have a greater advantage at destroying it. With your side of the story on the open they can decide wether or not to pursue with greater ease. Cops then take your statement and give it back to the accuser and ask them very nicely. "Is there anything else you remember about the incident?" Translation :"Do you have a better lie at overcoming this defence that we can use?"
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