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Radical Feminists Attempt to Silence Senator Anne Cools
posted by Scott on Saturday November 16, @08:11PM
from the news dept.
News AFG writes "These video links show what the radical feminists don't want you to see. During a conference discussing domestic violence and shared parenting in Canada, Senator Anne Cools (who has fought for the rights of both sexes) was repeatedly shouted down by militant man-hating feminists. At certain times, they even attempted to get the camera shut off, as they didn't want their misandry exposed. One ray of hope at the conference: Most of the audience applauded Cools whenever she stood up to the feminists. I would like to extend my support and thanks to Senator Cools for standing up for what is right and for what is fair. And here is a link to Anne Cools' site (if anyone wants to send her a thank you note)."

NYTimes Magazine DV Article | Series of Articles Document Violent Crime by Women  >

  
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You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Sunday November 17, @04:02AM EST (#1)
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Not only do I have to say that Anne is a brave woman but the very fact of censorship is on video.

Those were the types of tactics used in my trial and those are the types of tactics used all across the board.

All those people do is add fuel to the dv fire. They have no interest in looking at the reletive issues in a joint fashion; rather , they enjoy making attacks and nonsensical insults.

Honestly it is beyond me why they are so intimidated about any discussion of men being victims and or looking at the issue of dv not in a gender problem but a human one.

Honestly I have said it a million times, but those women are predators. They pose as victims but that is their game. When women go to dv shelters and sa centers its those women waiting patiently for their next victim. Why else would they idololize a play that nearly 'spiritualizes' lesbien sex with a minor.

Thank you senator.
*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:2)
by warble (activistwarble@yahoo.com) on Sunday November 17, @01:23PM EST (#4)
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....those women are predators. They pose as victims but that is their game.

It is shocking to see the level of hate that was spewed against all men in the audience. Further, if an officer touched them by the elbow then they would try to make an issue out of that face.

If any person doubts that there are radical feminist waging wars against men then I suggest watching these videos. That war is quite real and men have been getting their ass handed to them on a platter.

These women are violent, they are obnoxious, they will tell any lie, they hate being told the truth and get violent when confronted with the truth, they devote considerable time to spreading public disinformation, they were publicly making false claims of violence against the police officers, and yet they got off from being arrested simply because they were women. If those were men they would have been arrested.

Warble

Disclaimer: My statements are intended to be personal opinion, belief, sarcasm, or allegation.
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:2)
by Thomas on Sunday November 17, @02:38PM EST (#5)
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These women are violent, they are obnoxious, they will tell any lie, they hate being told the truth and get violent when confronted with the truth, they devote considerable time to spreading public disinformation, they were publicly making false claims of violence against the police officers, and yet they got off from being arrested simply because they were women. If those were men they would have been arrested.

Watching these videos, I am reminded that anyone, who questions terms like "feminazi," needs to think again. While watching them use their tactics and seeing, in their faces, the hatred that drives these feminists, it becomes clear that, except for their chosen target of hate, these people are, in their souls, no different from Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, and all the rest.
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Sunday November 17, @03:18PM EST (#6)
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"It is shocking to see the level of hate that was spewed against all men in the audience. Further, if an officer touched them by the elbow then they would try to make an issue out of that face. "

What I particularly liked is when the one woman was calling them "men". "You're all men. You're fathers, you're brothers, you're sons. You're all just a bunch of men thats all you are."

I gotta tell you, the way I percieved her remarks, was that, she was trying to use the word 'men' as the worst insult in the language.

To tell you the truth this is the stuff men's advocates have been looking for. I wish we had more of this stuff. The more we show women like this up the more it will be frowned opon. These women go around telling everyone how none violent they are. How the world would be a better place if run by women etc.. and here they are acting like violent imbeciles.

This stuff should be shown as a joke, skits should be made on saturday nightlive about these people. Women should be shown this when discussing debate about feminism.

Remember, you're all men, everyone of of you you're just a bunch of , a bunch of, a bunch of,--ahhh! A BUNCH OF MEN!.

~It's sweet to be me~
*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on Monday November 18, @01:31AM EST (#10)
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Dan.
Do you ever get tired of being right? (^_^)

The feminists know that, Those who cloak themselves in "victimhood" are WELL camouflaged.

        TC.
      "Hoka hey!"
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Monday November 18, @09:00PM EST (#15)
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"Do you ever get tired of being right? (^_^) "

In this case yes; but, women are waking up to their tactics. Women are beginning to realize that they are really just bastions of lesbien indoctrination.

Those women need help; not some sly come on that is backed by bolstered statistics and self righteous doctrine.

I am not homophobic I am merely pointing out that women are going from the frying pan into the fire of coercive sex.

Those institutions have made all forms of hetrosexual flirtation practically illigal or grounds for a lawsuit.

Recommended reading: 'When She Was Bad' by Patricia Pearson. Pearson goes into detail about how women 'lure' their prey rather than hunt it. Much more subtle and much more deceptive; but once you gain the eye for it you will see how much it is prevelant.
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*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Monday November 18, @04:26PM EST (#14)
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Honestly I have said it a million times, but those women are predators.

Yeah, sort of like a lanternfish. It dangles a bioluminescent bulb in front of its face, and as soon as something comes along to eat it, BAM - the "lantern" is replaced by a cavalcade of teeth and hunger.
Re:You Go Girl! (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on Tuesday November 19, @01:40PM EST (#17)
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Well, this ol' fish has learned along time ago to see the HOOK in the worm.
I often think it's funny to see women get mad because their "tricks" don't work on me.
(^_^)

    TC.
How typical (Score:1)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Sunday November 17, @08:14AM EST (#2)
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I think the videos speak for themselves, far more eloquently than anyone could comment on them.

Would that these got airplay from our chickenhearted, pheminized media.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
Hmmmmm..... (Score:1)
by napnip on Sunday November 17, @12:54PM EST (#3)
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After watching these videos, something odd struck me.

Most of you know about the United Way meeting I attended at my place of work back in September, because Scott posted it on the board and most of you contributed ideas on how I should approach it. (Thanks, BTW!)

Basically, I armed myself with statistics, and when the opportunity arose, I asked the lady from the battered women's shelter to comment on the statistics. (Needless to say, they were NOT the typical "5%" myth statistics.) I was curteous, patient, and conducted myself like an adult. I didn't interrupt anyone, and I didn't shout at the lady. (Granted, I was on company property and was on the clock, so I really couldn't shout. So in that sense, it may be a case of apples and oranges.) :o)

Observe the attitude of those women in the video clips. They didn't simply ASK Senator Cools questions about her policies. They DEMANDED answers. And when she attempted to answer them, they shouted her down and drowned her out. Contrast that with the way I conducted myself. I waited for the lady at the United Way meeting to finish speaking before I asked another question. I didn't interrupt her. I spoke calmly. I didn't DEMAND answers from her, but asked my questions in such a way that she had to answer them.

I told the lady at the United Way meeting that I would forward some information and statistics to her, since she had previously responded to an e-mail of mine, and I had her address. So I forwarded several websites to her which contained detailed statistics and analysis. In my e-mails to her, I asked her to comment on the stats and stated that I looked forward to a future dialogue with her.

What has been her response?

S I L E N C E

I have yet to hear from her. I suspect I never will.

Now I'm not saying that the woman at the United Way meeting shares any traits with the women in the videos. But I do suspect that they share many, if not all, political beliefs. When I calmly asked for answers from her, she sputtered and stated she had "never seen those numbers before".

The point I'm making in this long post is that these feminists DEMAND answers of others, yet when presented with questions about their own policies, they are suddenly silent. They feel they are entitled answers from others, yet they don't feel they owe answers to anyone who inquires of them.

They take money from men via taxdollars, yet they don't feel they owe those same men services or answers. Yet they don't hesitate to get in a man's face and scream that he's a batterer, an abuser, a woman hater, etc...., all the while taking his money to pay for services that he can't make use of. Or at best, he'll get a hotel voucher for a couple of days if he's lucky. They take his money to fund public "education" campaigns which only tell one half of the story, then they clam up when asked about the other half of the statistics.

So if any battered women's representatives or shelter directors are reading this, my message to you is simple: Either start offering equal services and shelter to men and educate the public on the real numbers, or stop taking men's money. And please, stop asking for even more money from me via the United Way when you won't provide me with the services that I'm already paying for via my taxdollars.

"Force and mind are opposites; morality ends where a gun begins." -John Galt
Re:Hmmmmm..... (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Sunday November 17, @03:58PM EST (#7)
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The point I'm making in this long post is that these feminists DEMAND answers of others, yet when presented with questions about their own policies, they are suddenly silent. They feel they are entitled answers from others, yet they don't feel they owe answers to anyone who inquires of them.

It's an interesting exercise in intellectual discipline not to respond in kind. It helps to separate statements into their intellectual and emotional components, respond only to the intellectual component (if you choose to respond) and make a note of, but do not respond to the emotional component--this is where the bigotry lies.

One of the most revealing episodes in the series showed a feminists outraged reaction to Senator Cool's statement that men and women "share violence equally." The feminist got up and shouted, "There are 50 women in the United States on death row!...There are thousands of men in the United States on death row! Men and women do not share violence equally!"

No scientist would accept this as a statistical argument that men are more "violent" than women--it's too vague. Presumably the null hypothesis is that men and women are convicted of a capital crime and sentenced to death upon conviction of a capital crime in a gender neutral way, or, if not in a gender neutral way, then in a way that discriminates against women; on that assumption, the presence of more men than women on death row might suggest that men are more violent than women.

There are several problems with this: while the radical feminist has been shouting in your ear, she has been equivocating on the meaning of violence. Senator Cool was refering to domestic violence, but when the radical feminist refers to violence, she implicitly suggests that punishment for capital crimes indicates violent behavior--this is likely, but the meaning of violence has changed from "domestic violence" to "violence implied by waiting on death row". It may be that men commit more capital crimes than women, even when we control for the greater likelyhood that men will be convicted and punished more severly than women for the identical crime; however, this need not inform us one way or the other about domestic violence.

But there is no way to disentangle any of the assumptions--ideological and otherwise--from the shouting radical feminist. Also, she is selective about the conclusions she draws: consider that at least half of the prison population is black.

On her statistical logic, with her nebulous, shifting definition of "violence", without an additional interpretive theory to explain away the resulting glaringly obvious racism (she probably does have such a theory), the radical feminist must conclude that blacks are more violent than whites, and that black men are more violent than white men. To view anti-male bigotry in stark relief, it sometimes helps to substitute the word "black" for "male" and "white" for "women".

Under this procedure, her shouted claim becomes, "There are 50 whites in the United States on death row!...There are thousands of blacks in the United States on death row! Blacks and whites do not share violence equally!" This is racist, but it takes work to overcome the cultural blindness that hinders our recognition of anti-male bigotry. In case anyone doubts the validity of the "men/black", "women/white" transform, consider it as a rough indicator whether a more thorough analysis would reveal problems with the original, as in the example given.
Re:Hmmmmm..... (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (homoascendens@ivillage.com) on Sunday November 17, @07:18PM EST (#8)
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One of the most revealing episodes in the series showed a feminists outraged reaction to Senator Cool's statement
                                                              that men and women "share violence equally." The feminist got up and shouted, "There are 50 women in the United
                                                              States on death row!...There are thousands of men in the United States on death row! Men and women do not share
                                                              violence equally!"


Thank her for providing an example where men suffer more violence than women but point out that it's domestic violence we're talking about.

cheers,
sd

Those who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like.
Re:Hmmmmm..... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday November 17, @09:16PM EST (#9)
Well dissected and well explained Mars.

Jack Implant

Sigh (Score:1)
by Tony (MensRights@attbi.com) on Monday November 18, @05:02AM EST (#11)
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And people wonder why the men's movement hate (some) feminsts. When trying to talk about a problem these women always want to shift the focus to thier lives and their problems. Why are they so afraid to share the spotlight on gender issues? One of the rad feminist statements seems to the highlight the reason for their behavior. "Look at us!" they sound like children who are so selfcentered in their focus they can not see past the their nose on any issue. [rather amusing video]
Tony
Re:Hmmmmm..... (Score:1)
by Dr Evil on Monday November 18, @07:16AM EST (#12)
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Great job Napnip. This is exactly what we must do over and over again. When confronted with the truth as you did with this woman, or when confronted by a political authority (Sen Cools) the rad fems fold. Either running away or becoming like kids having a tantrum. The more they do this sort of thing the more the general public will see how immature and incorrect they are.

Stand Your Ground
You need to... (Score:2)
by frank h on Monday November 18, @03:49PM EST (#13)
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...point this fact out to your management in writing.
HOW DISRESPECTFUL...Poor Sen. Anne!!!! (Score:1)
by Emanslave (Emanslave@aol.com) on Tuesday November 19, @02:19AM EST (#16)
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For one thing, I'm starting to think that these feminists are not worried about equality and stopping domestic violence...they're more interested in causing trouble. After listening to snippets of the clips, there is one conclusion that we must make...whether these fems came from the quasi-lesbian rape-crisis centers and probably NOW [if they have one from Canada], they just don't seem to understand [or even care] that a former dv shelter coordinator has had a change of heart! Like IFeminist Wendy [a one-time domestic abuse survivor], Sen. Anne understands that this is a very grim and serious problem! And instead of seeing the many sides of abuse, these radical femmes only want to define it as one side and one side only. With that kind of arrogance and atitude, they aren't being fair to all of the victims! But don't get me wrong...if this is the reason why Dr. Warren [Farrell], Erin [Pizzey], and especially Mary [from AMEN] realized this evil and jumped shift, then kudos to them; moreover, Kudos to Sen. Anne and Wendy too for their fair-minded and smart-clever approach to tear down that dreaded lace curtain of domestic violence. As for her [Sen. Anne], my condolences go out to her for the way these radical feminists disrespected her during the meet.

Right on, sweet sister!!! from a brother who understands!

Emmanuel Matteer Jnr.
Emanslave@aol.com

*****MASCULISM IS A BLACK MALE'S BEST FRIEND!!!!!*****
What better way to show the other side... (Score:1)
by ppmnow (ppm_now@hotmail.com) on Tuesday November 19, @05:26PM EST (#18)
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Thank you, ladies (well, not really...more like bullies), for showing your true colors for all to see. Very gutsy, if you ask me.

Oh, and don't forget: When in a public forum, your privacy at such events is not protected by any laws. And touching the camera operator without consent was de jure assault. Lucky you it was a person of the 'understanding' persuasion: A man!

Candid camera, indeed!

Mitchell A. Smith

"An ambiguous perspective is all you can hope for when initially confronted by that which you do not know."
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