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There was an article in Woman's Day or Redbook last year about Lance Armstrong's wife and mother. The theme of the article was that it was they that got Lance through his trials with cancer and it was they that were responsible for his subsequently winning the Tour deFrance. I thought what kind of audacity it must've taken for these two women to claim this? I chose not to write a letter to them, 'cause I never believed it would be published, but every time I hear Lance Armstrong's name, I think how offended and actually sick to my stomach I felt when these two BIBMO's took all the credit for his recovery and victory. No one recovers from these things alone, but JEEZ, give the guy some credit for his own fortitude!
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 29, @03:11PM EST (#2)
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Yeah, I heared about the thing with Armstrong, I just rolled my eyes and thought to myself; "Par-for-the-course, with alot of today's Women."
Notice that MANY of them take "credit" for things MEN have done and do.
As for Julia Child, She has always been a class act all the way.
Thundercloud.
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Well, if they TAKE some of the credit, then when things go bad, they should take some of the blame too. Enron exec wives, take note.
(Now that I think of it, didn't Agassi's career take a nose dive when his relationship with Brooke Shields was on the rocks? Can you imagine the outrage if Agassi said in public that he lost a couple of years of top-10 tennis because of her?)
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It's almost compulsory for a man on attaining some particular achievement to give the credit to his wife, girlfriend, or mother. I recently read an article about how common it is now for soccer stars to conspicuously kiss their wedding ring on scoring a goal -- men who don't do this are almost "marked" as committment-phobes or misogynists or somesuch. One can scarcely imagine this sort of behavior in female athletes, and how often does a woman's acceptance speech attribute her success to her husband, boyfriend or father?
The cynic in my suggests that women make up for a lack of achievements by being better at taking credit for others' achievements.
cheers,
sd
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by Anonymous User on Friday August 30, @12:51AM EST (#4)
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It has been My expirience that, when makeing "Exceptance speeches", and the like, Women tend to PUT MEN DOWN, in general. I can't count the number of times I've heard some Woman make some kind of anti-male statement or joke in a situation like this.
Weird isn't it that the opposite is true with Men in the same situation?
I've said it before, I'll say it again...;
'Who are the REAL sexists...?'
Thundercloud.
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It all comes down to the conceit of women's independence that feminism has fostered. The feminist woman's proudest claim is that she's completely independent of men, anything less and she's tainted with the nasty smell of 'tradition'. You only have to listen to a lot of modern music. While twenty years ago women were singing about how in love they were with what's-his-face, now they're more likely to be singing about how great they're doing now they've given what's-his-face the boot.
Since feminist women see men as oppressors, the last thing they're going to do is thank them for anything. Whatever she achieves will be due to her efforts, and possibly the support of some other woman. This conceit extends to all areas, not just personal relationships. With the first anniversary of 9/11 coming up it's perhaps worth remembering some of the things that were written at the time about the firefighters. A few women journalists wrote in an astonished style about the efforts and sacrifices of those men. One even claimed that the events of that day showed that 'men can make sacrifices too', as if women were the yardstick of self-sacrifice!
The converse, which is that of men thanking women for their achievements, comes from another feminist conceit. Since men exploit women, so the reasoning goes, it follows that women are the ones doing the real work. Anything a man achieves must therefore be due to one of the 'real workers' behind the scenes.
The conceit that women do most of the world's work is a core idea of Marxist feminism, apeing Marx's original claim that the proletariat were the ones doing the work while the bourgoisie took all the profits. A number of years ago a report came out detailing the work done by American men and women. It found that, on average, men did five hours more work per week than women did, taking all things - including childcare - into consideration. Shortly after the report was published, N.O.W. brought out a pamphlet of 'selected findings' from the report which painted women as the ones doing most of the work. And so the idea of the 'second shift' was born, which helped to fuel the idea that men are lazy and women do the real work.
As a final aside, consider this. On the train to work thismorning I read a small article about a recent report on working habits here in the UK. The article was headlined with the statement that one in six workers now work sixty hours a week or more. In the body of the article it mentioned that one in eight women work 60+ hours a week, but no figure was given for men. I realised that if 1 in 8 women were doing 60+ hours a week and 1 in 6 workers were doing 60+ hours a week, that meant that more men than women were working 60+ hours. But how many more? Assuming the same number of male and female workers, I did a bit of mental arithmetic. The result? About one in FIVE men work 60+ hours a week here in the UK. So, 12.5% of women and 20% of men work 60+ hours a week. And who knows that from reading that article in the paper? Probably only me.
So, who are the REAL sexists? Hey, like I even need to answer that!
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by Anonymous User on Friday August 30, @04:12PM EST (#7)
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And Something else.
We're all familiar with the saying: "behind EVERY successful Man there is a WOMAN."
Really..., Then how do you explain LIEBERACHI?!?
Thundercloud.
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"Behind EVERY Successful Man, there is a WOMAN...that he is trying to pay for or escape from."
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