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Does this really change anything, do we just think changing what we teach our kids will make a difference. Sounds like MS. Information mag is the one taking away everyones "choices"
Stand up and take a bullet. Dan Lynch
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I see your point, Dan. But I still see this change as a good step. Gender feminists will always try to hijack and twist every victory we gain to their own advantage and even pretend it's their own victory. But the change is still our own victory and is still a move toward ending anti-male bias in gender-related programs. Feminists will also do this when we finally start getting commissions for men. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have the commissions. It just means the fight is nowhere near over even after we have them. We'll need to fight to make sure they address men's rights and that they're not just a group of feminist men badmouthing male behavior.
We can thank Joe Manthey for helping to influence this change with a lawsuit against his locality in California. His actions should be duplicated nationwide.
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But the change is still our own victory and is still a move toward ending anti-male bias in gender-related programs. Feminists will also do this(try to take over) when we finally start getting commissions for men.
Be forwarned, everyone in New Hampshire, (like you needed me to do that). I agree Marc, but thats what I was saying, they are bringing girls in to work and Im sure when the boys are there the commentary will be "little boys should feel sad for women who were trapped in the home, its all men's fault". Great way for a boy to turn into a man. There should be no problem with gearing our children to work eithics either in the home or out of the home without guilt or bias or bringing up "trade off decisions" and thats what they were, from families years ago. I know a few guys who went mental working mundane factory jobs, a guy I know right now working nearly 16 hrs a day everyday to support his family. But MS. Disinformation mag will show it quit differently, it will be a propaganda speach how women can have cake and children too and not sacrifice thier work careers and that little boys should be supportive(slave) to this, wether they are fathers or not. But your right Marc, something was done and a difference was made. Did you follow that International Men's Day thread? Well it was the same feminutzi crap, "how can we turn boys into our vision stuff" not issues like fatherless homes or drug addiction, or increasing suicide rates.
Stand up and take a bullet. Dan Lynch
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Mein Gott.
First they want equal pay. Ok, cool. No issues with that. Equal rights- It was about time, eh? But now the feminists want taking time off work to make absolutely NO difference in their careers? Come on, people. If you jump out of the pool, people are going to pass you.
It's the same for a man that takes off time- You lose that bit of time in the seniority pool, or whatever. Deal with it. You can have a healthy family, or you can have a healthy career. Not both.
Women aren't better than men.
Men aren't better than women.
We're just different. Deal.
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Come on, people. If you jump out of the pool, people are going to pass you.
One of the reasons that the idea, of getting paid to be with your children, probably won't fly is that someone has to work to earn the money that would be given to parents for cooking meals, nursing sick kids, or watching those kids play soccer. If it were only men doing the work for which only mothers were getting paid, the system might be put into place. What will happen, though, under the proposed system is that people without children will be working extra hours at jobs that they're generally not crazy about, and in many cases despise, so that the money earned can be taken away and given to parents who choose to be with their children.
Of course many fembots are proposing that mothers rather than parents get this leave with no damage to their careers. Unfortunately for them, men are not likely to put up with that sort of garbage for much longer.
Can you imagine childless women working extra hours so that men can get paid to watch their kids play soccer? Neither can I.
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Can you imagine childless women working extra hours so that men can get paid to watch their kids play soccer? Neither can I."
the most ruthless people I have come across concerning competition in the workforce is women against women. "That bitch is on holidays again" a female employer talking about an employee on leave. The prob with MS. Informtation mag is they think women are still bottom feeders, guess what, if they were in charge and owend their own company, do you think that will fly with them? Let alone paying for men to have the same right? Women who can't have kids working harder longer for less?? I have a feeling the statutes will end up just reading , women get time off, no penelties , get more money , less effort, men slaves. Guess what , they have just returned to the very traditional roles they felt oppressed by. Cake and eat it too? No, you can't control everything, the office the home, the parents meet the teachers night, end result skitzo crack up or burn-out. Drug proglems you name it. And just a thought on the matter, if fembots want this so bad, why do they oppose the 'artificial womb' doesnt its perfection give a women her cake and eat it too? Actually it does well almost , only prob, men would have their cake and eat it too, too. Children would only be a luxury (wait maybe the invention of the pill, did that) good luck with you mission to ruin everything with lies and falsehoods and halve truths.
Stand up and take a bullet. Dan Lynch
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The things that "interested" me:
There was absolutely no mention of any man having any connection with this at all. So, apparently, men don't care about taking children to work - because they aren't supposed to, only women workers - and apparently only interesting women workers, like doctors or CEOs. The posting board had one guy talking about his experiences taking his daughters to work - quite positive.
Another thing, what on Earth are these people thinking when they say such things as "boys should see women work: changing diapers, cooking, etc." This seems to go against feminists ideals of women NOT doing these things. Plus, I don't know one boy raised in a household with a baby that doesn't know how to change a diaper. Believe it or not, boys do pick up things from whatever parent is cooking/cleaning/watching baby, not just girls.
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"When comparing men and women who have had the same jobs for the same amount of time, the wage gap closes significantly, says Nancy Fohtenhouer, president of the Independent Women's Foundation, a Washington-based women's group that has opposed Take Our Daughters to Work Day for a number of years."
I don't believe they would have mentioned this side of the story at all if it weren't for Bernard's Goldberg's recent book, "Biased." In it, Goldberg asks a fellow reporter, "Have you ever gone to a conservative women's group for an opinion on a gender issue?" The reporter could not answer yes.
Apparently Dan Rather and the rest have never spoken to Goldberg since.
Thanks, Goldberg. Although I have very liberal leanings, that doesn't mean I want a liberal-biased media. Especially one that ignores men's rights.
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Thanks, Goldberg. Although I have very liberal leanings, that doesn't mean I want a liberal-biased media. Especially one that ignores men's rights.
Being liberal shouldnt take away someones ability to be 'objective' does it? I mean, this isnt liberalism its a lie or a curving of the truth. It doesnt solve a problem it creates one.
You should stay liberal Marc maybe you can inform your fellow liberals that miss the point. I'm neither one or the other, I'm an issue man, which doesnt mean I sit on the fence, it means I try to be objective to whats going on, instead of what will benifit my "party". And if you happen to run into Christine Stolba from the IWF, tell her I think she is awesome.
Stand up and take a bullet. Dan Lynch
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"And if you happen to run into Christine Stolba from the IWF, tell her I think she is awesome."
And I still would like to see her picture.
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And I still would like to see her picture. ""
Deal!
I'm sending it now.
Stand up and take a bullet. Dan Lynch
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