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More Misandry in Massachusetts
posted by Scott on Wednesday March 13, @07:10AM
from the inequality/double-standards dept.
Inequality Luek writes "This is another article about the infamous sex abuse case of Gerald Amirault who was refused parole by the unelected Governor Jane Swift. The usually stern parole board recommended that Amirault be paroled, and his two female codefendants had already been released from prison some time ago. What makes this story uniquely bizarre is that the same Governor Swift who went against the recommendation of her own parole board for the release of Gerald Amirault, just last year issued a full pardon to five women who were convicted and executed during the Salem witch trials in 1692! For an even more in-depth insight on just how toxically misandric Massachusetts has become under the MS-rule of Governor Swift, check out the web site of The Father's Coalition of Massachusetts. It is not for the faint hearted."

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Witch hunt in Mass (Score:1)
by cwfreeman on Wednesday March 13, @10:41AM EST (#1)
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Yes Scott I also found it remarkable. There is also another man in Mass. Prison who was convicted at the same time as Mr. Amirault. This man's name is Bernard Baren. He was a 19 year-old pre-school worker at the time and was convicted and is still in prison. His case is frightenly similiar to the Felles Acre case. You can find information of this one at www.freebaron.org/

In this case the accuser a mother of a boy in the school and a drug addict said Mr. Baran assaulted her child. A second mother came forward, a friend of the first accuser she was also a drug addict said that Mr. Baran assaulted her daughter. Both women shortly after the trial sued the school. What is interesting is that the second child, the daughter, when she was a teenager reported the Mr. Baran never touched her, that it was all made up by her mother and her friend to get money from the school.

Another interesting side note is that the first mother prior to the allegations had two boyfriends at seperate times who accidently stabed themselves in the chest, one of them needing open-heart surgery. It was during arguements and neither man pressed charges. Take a look at the site I am sure that you will find it very interesting.
Re:Witch hunt in Mass (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Wednesday March 13, @09:28PM EST (#19)
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Depressing as hell, isn't it? God.
Re:Witch hunt in Mass (Score:1)
by cwfreeman on Wednesday March 13, @10:35PM EST (#21)
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Yes it is crescentluna my heart goes out to the man, and the children in that house.
Salem witches (Score:1)
by wiccid stepparent on Wednesday March 13, @12:37PM EST (#2)
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"What makes this story uniquely bizarre is that the same Governor Swift who went against the recommendation of her own parole board for the release of Gerald Amirault, just last year issued a full pardon to five women who were convicted and executed during the Salem witch trials in 1692!"

They were convicted of and executed for WITCHCRAFT. Do you really believe they deserved it?

Anyway, it was merely a public relations gimmick, not much more. It was a shameful time in human history, but mostly it makes good press.
Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by cwfreeman on Wednesday March 13, @01:26PM EST (#3)
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Wicced stepparent if you are asking me if I believe the women were witches and deserved to be executed for it, no I don't. I have lived in Salem all my life and have never believed that this kind of behavior was anything but religious fear and political land grabing. What is remarkable is that in this state we still find people inprisoned for the same reasons religious fears and politics.

Of course the point of the posts is not the long dead innocent women but the currently alive and falsly accused men.
Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by wiccid stepparent on Wednesday March 13, @01:32PM EST (#4)
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Let's get acquittals for the men who died during the Witch Trials too:

"By the time the hysteria had spent itself, 24 people had died. Nineteen were hanged on Gallows Hill in Salem Town, but some died in prison. Giles Corey at first pleaded not guilty to charges of witchcraft, but subsequently refused to stand trial. This refusal meant he could not be convicted legally. However, his examiners chose to subject him to interrogation by the placing of stone weights on his body. He survived this brutal torture for two days before dying. "
Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by cwfreeman on Wednesday March 13, @02:19PM EST (#5)
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wiccid I agree. Mr Corey refused to admit his guilt and stand trial because he knew that in doing so his land would be taken by the court and his family would be the losers too.
Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by wiccid stepparent on Wednesday March 13, @02:25PM EST (#6)
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Sure am glad we are free from that sort of collective religious psychosis now ... (sarcasm off)
Re:Salem witches (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @02:48PM EST (#7)
the salem witch trials were set off by the false accusations of a group of ADOLESCENT GIRLS, not scheming patriarchs seeking to oppress women

the girls’ motivations? – they felt slighted by certain community members, and therefore decided to take revenge on them by spreading rumors

gee, let's see, young women taking revenge ... nope, never encountered that before

governor unswift’s “pardon” of the “witches” was – like her refusal to free an innocent man – purely a ideological and political move, designed to curry favor from liberals and feminists in Massachusetts

the biggest irony of all is that, indeed, there ARE witches

most of them are dilettantes, new age wannabes

some of them are simply nature-lovers in fancy garb

others – as the past four decades have clearly shown – are actual, honest-to-god, raging misandrist WITCHES, practiced at using all means available to cause injury and damage to anything masculine – particularly to defenseless boys

modern rationalists – especially males -- are so naïve

they think that because they label something a “superstition,” it automatically ceases to exist

our modern denial that “witches” exist has been fertile ground for their rise to power, a perfect smokescreen

Little Bo-Peep

Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Wednesday March 13, @03:30PM EST (#10)
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I'll avoid name calling, but I ask you refrain from bringing up religion against people. I've been around pagans or "witches" all my life, and yes, they are more likely to be feminists towards the radical variety. BUT, they are not the kinds talked about during the Salem Witch trials, they do not have familiars or sacrifice cats or children to the full moon.

Because someone has risen to political power by whining about mistreatment, and then committing mistreatment against others, doesn't make them a witch. Makes them a jerk, perhaps.
Bitches, not Witches (Score:1)
by Subversive on Wednesday March 13, @03:35PM EST (#11)
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actual, honest-to-god, raging misandrist WITCHES, practiced at using all means available to cause injury and damage to anything masculine – particularly to defenseless boys
Most Witches recognize the Divine in both Male and Female aspects. "Dianics," who mostly or only see the Divine in women, are in the extreme minority. When you use the word "witch" as derogatory slang for radical gender feminist, you instead insult the Witches, who have nothing to do with this. I recommend using a different word, such as "bitch," as derogatory slang to describe radical gender feminists.
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Re:Salem witches (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @09:05PM EST (#15)
weh weh weeeeehhhhh i do not know what talk about so i whine about other religions und conspiracies weh weh weeeehhhhh

Re:Bitches, not Witches (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @03:59PM EST (#12)
thanks, but i am a longstanding practising pagan myself, and thus need no lectures from neophytes in pagan mythology, philosophy, or technique

takes one ta know one

i have spent much of my life around witches of all manner

save the psychobabble about my friendly neighborhood coven and its divine gnosis

most of them are harmless, new age dilettantes

your insistence that i not call a malicious witch a witch, however, is naive in the extreme

not to mention an attempt at covert censorship

such naivete has done much to lead men to their current predicament

not only will i continue to choose my own words, my p.c. "subversive," but i will apply the words which fit the beast

WITCH!

Bo Peep


Re:Bitches, not Witches (Score:1)
by Subversive on Wednesday March 13, @08:03PM EST (#14)
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our modern denial that “witches” exist has been fertile ground for their rise to power, a perfect smokescreen.... i am a longstanding practising pagan.... i...need no lectures from neophytes.... save the psychobabble.... your insistence...is naive in the extreme.... an attempt at covert censorship.... [rationalism] has done much to lead men to their current predicament
Bo Peep,
Sorry for misunderstanding that when you said "witch" you meant "witch." I realize there is no point in arguing with you about your witchcraft conspiracy theories. I hope we can at least all agree that the men like Giles Corey who died during the Salem Witch Trials deserve full pardons or state apologies or whatever, the same as the women.
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Re:Bitches, not Witches (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @09:08PM EST (#16)
weh weh weeeeeehhhhhh i know nothing about religion so i pretend to be pagan to feel better than others weh weh weeeeehhhhhh

Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Wednesday March 13, @09:20PM EST (#17)
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It's truly tragic, however, that you've figured out how to type - sort of.
Re:Just Witches Will Do (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @09:22PM EST (#18)
“Sorry for misunderstanding that when you said "witch" you meant "witch." I realize there is no point in arguing with you about your witchcraft conspiracy theories. I hope we can at least all agree that the men like Giles Corey who died during the Salem Witch Trials deserve full pardons or state apologies or whatever, the same as the women.
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i said nothing about a "conspiracy" – i don't use that word, for the same reason you chose to use it -- it has pejorative connotations, and tends to marginalize and deride anyone using it

thanks for the offer, tho

i merely pointed out that in the collective human organism, there has always been a malicious aspect of the feminine, whose aim in human affairs is invariably the persecution, torture and destruction of anything masculine – especially infant males

if you require evidence of this, please pick a western culture of the past forty years, and examine it for the mangled targets of this malicious feminine aspect

i don’t think you’ll have much trouble finding the remains of her handiwork

she is the witch, and she rules this nation by iron

if your politics, epistemology, or cosmology prevent you from acknowledging her, then i’d say you suffer from the same self-blinding as the majority of western cultures

and no, i don’t give a shit about giles corey

i’m interested in the kids thrashing in bathtubs, screaming in the circumstraints, and smothering with pillows over their faces, RIGHT NOW

it’s a red herring to focus on the salem trials – as i inferred by identifying the source of the trials (the thirst for vengeance of adolescent girls, conveniently forgotten), the trials are now merely another feminist political tool, a bludgeon that intimidates the culture into silence concerning the witch (ooh, i’m a pagan, i’m a wiccan, you’ve offended my “religion,” so you have to shut up)

yo anthrax, how about downing a dose of your own medicine?

Cotton Mather

Re:Just Witches Will Do (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @09:44PM EST (#20)
weh weh weeeehhhhhh i do not have argument so i name call and sign names from history or nursery rimes then i say i did not say what i said weh weh weeeeehhhhhhh
Re:Just Witches Will Do (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @10:49PM EST (#22)
ah, my own personalized lurker, following me from post to post on this board

someone with nothing to do in their pitiful life but to wait upon my every word

JUMP when i speak, snake!

i'll take this attempt to silence me for what it is -- a sign of effectiveness

guess i'll have to crank the amp up to 12, now

sweet dreams

The Babysitter
Re:Just Witches Will Do (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden@yahoo.com) on Wednesday March 13, @11:04PM EST (#23)
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We should advertise this site with the possibility of acquiring your own troll/lurker.
Re:Just Witches Will Do (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @11:22PM EST (#24)
weh weh weeehhhhhh i so stupid i not even use reverse psicology rite weh weh weeehhhhhh
Living, not Dead (Score:1)
by Larry on Thursday March 14, @07:08PM EST (#25)
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"I hope we can at least all agree that the men like Giles Corey who died during the Salem Witch Trials deserve full pardons or state apologies or whatever, the same as the women."

Sure. Whatever. Pardon all the dead people you want. I'm much more concerned that, if this living man is as innocent as the Salem witches, the State of Massachusetts will continue the tradition and wait 200 years to give him the same, post-mortem pardon.

Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by proudman on Wednesday March 13, @02:58PM EST (#8)
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Sure am glad we are free from that sort of collective religious psychosis now ... (sarcasm off)

Would this be the same religious psychosis that wants Russell Yate's religious beliefs to be criminally actionable, and evidence against him?
Re:Salem witches (Score:1)
by wiccid stepparent on Wednesday March 13, @03:08PM EST (#9)
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Actually I was talking about the recent 9/11 events, Northern Ireland, and people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson, but whatever....
witches brag: MASS going Swift-ly down the drain (Score:1)
by dogfree_zone on Friday March 15, @05:34PM EST (#26)
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"They were convicted of and executed for WITCHCRAFT. Do you really believe they deserved it?"
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Who would EVER believe in witches today?

Women themselves? Many women today brag about being witches, TV shows included.
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MASS Feminist Injustice (Score:1)
by dogfree_zone on Wednesday March 13, @04:41PM EST (#13)
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Does anyone, who is not completely brainwashed by our goose-step society, still believe the romance that empowered women will be the Savior of our society? Women abuse politics more than men, and then feel self-righteous about it, too. [note quote from article following in several paragraphs]

Several years ago, I befriended an Hungarian man visiting the U.S. One of his comments that he thought should be obvious to Americans:

"You give them the vote, the jobs, the money; and they don't need you any more."

Note quote also below, about "liberal", and what that word & honorable tradition has been perverted to in the 20th century. Mass is a liberal state.

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"The clear implication is that her motives were political: With Massachusetts in an uproar over the ongoing scandal of pedophile priests, to commute Gerald Amirault's sentence would have made her vulnerable in November when, as a not very popular or experienced Republican appointee, she faces an uphill struggle for election."

"Massachusetts--liberal, modern, technocratic Massachusetts-"
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