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by Anonymous User on Tuesday March 12, @12:04PM EST (#1)
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There does seem to be a trend establishing itself nationally...
No surprise with the victimology misery merchants peddling the notion that only men and patriarchal values can be evil. Until a balanced notion of gender is achieved, it is only going to get worse for men.
feminism is sexism
CJ
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Well put, Nightmist.
Odd that an 8 year old is a criminal for pulling out a toy gun to try to end his problems, but a woman who fires a real gun into the crotch of another man was "A Victim". Yes. Wonderful world we live in, where an adult is no longer accountable because of her genetalia.
Of course, if men are 'born criminals', then it could be stated that men Aren't responsible for their actions. After all, if a woman can claim that she was emotionally distressed (and we know men have no real emotion, right?), then a male who's born to hurt isn't responsible because he's simply doing as he knows. Right?
Wrong. If an adult does something, they did it. They're responsible, unless completely insane. A child is responsible, but if no one's actually hurt, it's NOT a criminal act.
What a world. What a world.
Women aren't better than men.
Men aren't better than women.
We're just different. Deal.
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Yes, again we are outraged. I am tired of being outraged and not having a place to send it. Is it at all possible to add to these posts the relevant addresses of parties that could be impacted by my outrage? Where is the activism in mensactivism? Would it be possible to coordinate the energies of our list here to rattle the appropriate cages of the monkeys who are running the show???? Consider this a very real cry for help! I'm really pissed about Chante Mallard and her crew of complicitous bastards.
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If it's any consolation, Attila, my column was read today by people from both uscourts.gov and the department of justice (I love reverse DNS).
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday March 13, @12:55AM EST (#5)
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Yes, I agree. I'm tired of reading these articles when it feels useless. I think that more "activism" needs to happen. Everytime I read an article like this it's even more frustrating feeling like there is absolutely nothing that can be done, where as feminist groups seem to be multiplying exponentially. If anyone knows where and/or how we can get more involved as a previous person mentioned I would greatly appreciate the information.
JM
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Besides the congrats next time you look at how women and men are treated in the criminal justice system I would mention the fact that women are much more likely to be treated by a medical model and men are much more likely to be treated by the criminal model. The medical model assumes that the criminal is capable of rehabilitation and is much less harsh in the sentencing and punishment aspects the criminal model is the one we are all familar with and that men tend to recieve. (note: this is the counter to the argument that feminists use about the "Fact" that women get harsher punishements for killing men. They ignore the women that never make it to the crimnal courts and are routed to the medical system for treatment.)
if you want refrences let me know (menrights@aol.com)
Tony H
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The best advice I can give you JM is to speak up loudly and frequently about men's issues when relavent. DO NOT be accusational and angry since people will tend to dismiss you and not listen to your message. I have found that the vast majority of women, even if they claim to be feminists, are open about discussing men's rights and issues. The largest problem is that people are totally unaware of the men's rights movement. I just completed a small survey for a class that asked people how important they think the men's rights movement is and the most frequent comment I got was, "There's a men's rights movement?" from MEN and WOMEN!!!
Talk about the issues such as:
Fathers rights- talk about how fathers are represented on screen, how women are seen as skilled parent while men are seen as the secondary caretakers.
domestic violence-talk the amount of men that are abused avoid discussing the myths the popular DV says about men this ends up in arguements and shifts the discussion into feminist territory.
work issues- this one is tricky but challenge the idea of the wage gap myth. I would use the simple arguement that society is bias against families not women. Women put their families before work and thereby their advancement at work suffers (mention the "mommy track") mention how men are exepected to put work first and lose rights at home.
Talk about male rape in prison
talk about make depression and suicide.
the biggest thing to avoid is the trap feminists use to redirect the focus of the conversation to how women are treated instead of how men are treated. ANYTIME they do this point it out nicely but firmly. I usually say something like, "I understand how you feel but that does not address the issues men are dealing with."
DO NOT get mad!! TBaiting is a common trick and I fell for it once a few weeks back. (talk about self-control two years of martial arts training prevented me from losing my cool and snapping the smug little fem-nazi's neck.)
If they refuse to engage you in men's issues just walk away.
ABOVE ALL ELSE take the higher moral ground!!!!
IF you slip or say anything that could be considered sexist they will use it against you to dismiss your entire discussion.
Be firm! stand tall!
I have had women send me a personal thanks for standing up to male bashing in courses. It is a wonderful feeling to know that people feel the sameway I do but lack the knowledge or a place to turn to learn about men's issues.
(note: I did run into women and men that felt the men's movement was not important and that men have all the rights. My answer to them would be to ask what male issues they have studied. putting them on the spot almost always works since they never have really examined their beliefs or men from any other view than Women's studies classes.)
be better informed and more knowledgable about the issues you discuss and always be willing to say you don't know something but you will look it up and get back to them if they are interested.
email me if you want more specific info
menrights@aol.com
Tony H
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From Hanback's editorial:
"In other words, they have implied that it is now legal in Covington for a woman to shoot a man out of rage and revenge."
Ironic modern turn of justice, gender-role reversed. Texas used to be lambasted for its de facto law concerning a man catching his wife in the act of adultery. In a rage of the very moment, shooting his wife was considered justice.
Ah, such enlightened progress, backwards into the future:
"You've come a long way, Baby!"
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