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Somehow the idea of comparing male rape in Tennessee to that of prisons beggars the statistical controls. The converse seems equally plausible: That living in Tennessee heightens the potential for male rape as much as living in prison. Who dreams up these statistical analogies? Didn't they see "Deliverance"? Those boys wore overalls for a practical reason. There I go again, not supporting the seriousness of our brotherly plight. Shame on me.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday February 28, @08:30PM EST (#2)
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prison rape of males is common, and is one of the nation’s greatest shames – a denial that will come back to beset it
“beggars the statistical controls” to say the least
hey, why not check with Georgia and Arkansas, too?
let’s stay off the Victim Bandwagon – we have enough valid issues
Ed (Mr. to you)
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Given that the rape of women is now even considered a 'war crime', and that LEADERS who PERMIT crimes against humanity to be carried out by their OFFICIALS are now themselves to be considered as criminals, it won't be long now, I hope, before LEADERS and OFFICIALS who allow inmates to be raped are prosecuted.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday February 28, @08:56PM EST (#4)
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PREACH!! m'lord
and let the demons of power flee
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Re: rape/war crimes: If you are forcibly rounding up women for the sole purpose of servicing your troops, i.e. the "comfort women" of Japan and more recently women in Bosnia, I would say that this is both rape and a war crime.
I have read that prison guards turn a blind eye to prison rapes and even occasionally encourage them, as a form of punishment toward the rape victim for whatever the guards deem to be an offense. I don't know if there is validity to this; I just recall a case about it.
Certainly if this is the case the guards and perhaps even the prison warden should be held in some way accountable.
Of course we live in a country where a gang of officers can sodomize a man in a police station bathroom with a broom handle and have their convictions overturned, so I doubt that will happen.
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As to forcibly rounding up women for comfort service: would you rather they be shot? Until you walk a mile in the shoes of war you, again, are arguing from ignorance. War is despiccable and necessary. You cannot fight a clean nice battle and expect to end the war. It would quickly evolve like professional sports. Your line of reasoning is suspiciously pro war and femme based. War is a delightful tool of the femme to control the masculine. History is replete with the dirty secret that men are encourage to that end by the women who do not participate. Sometimes the women get drawn into the scenario and that is when you bitches start complaining. Stop it. Men prefer hierarchial structures and readily codify the implementation of those structures. It is a fat lie that men are in the first place bloodthirsty. Hell it is our blood that is spilled and that is a liability that we must recognize. Those that have no liabilities are the ones screaming for blood damnit! In fact the loss of life only envalues the wombbearers as they are the source for replacements. It is the emotionally based strategy that draws blood. Now where do we get that emotionally based strategy? hmmm????? Do you begin to recognize the vicious circle here? Do you begin to see the greater conspiracy by the femme to dominate the world through war????
As a further point, you will not succeed in prosecuting prison officials for these crimes so long as you fail to support social rehabilitation as part of the criminal justice system. The system is currently a system of punishment and revenge. Prison rape will be permitted for the same reasons that I have outlined concerning the femme's disposition towards war. Your caterwaulling about the conditions of prisons is all straw men and a self-serving emotional exercise akin to shameful masturbation. Your sisters sit in silence because they support any and all attacks on the masculine. Shut up and listen. You do have nerve. Not much else.
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Torture has been a war crime for some time now afaik. Rape, paricularly in the context of war, is torture imo. It's appropriate that rape in war be designated as a war crime.
I've gotta say that the rediculous rhetoric on this site is looking more and more like feminism every day to me.
You launched an aggressive attack on the previous post which seemed to me to be a reasonable, and inoffensive post. I don't know how you plan on changing the oppinion of anyone when you say things like "Shut up and listen." That's the sort of thing that's likely to make me not listen.
Matt
(thinking about avoiding the comments section of this site altogether.)
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"(thinking about avoiding the comments section of this site altogether.)"
You're not alone, Matt. But please give it a chance, as of next week this site will implement a "comment rating system" that will allow users to rate comments and filter comments based on these ratings. The system is complex because it is so distributed, but the main effect will be that trolls and flamebait will get low scores and quality posts will get more points. Users can then select a score threshold to view comments at.
This will allow the trolls and flamers to continue to do their thing, and for the rest of us to actually exchange information and ideas that will be of benefit to the men's movement.
Before anyone jumps to conclusions about this metamoderation system, please read the documentation on it. It has worked well on Slashdot for years.
http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml
Scott
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Sounds like a good system to me, Scott. And to avoid appearing overly negative let me take this opportunity to restate that I think you've got a wonderful site here and you have my respect and admiration.
Matthew
"I know that justice is indivisible; injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." MLK
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I think male rape victims are scared to tell the police b/c of the whole "sissy" thing AND because there's no politics attached to it supposedly.
This study seems to be very thorough. There are some people who I'd like to force to read this. *hehe*
-Rivka
"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
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by Anonymous User on Friday March 01, @11:23PM EST (#11)
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yah, m'lady, the world's chock full o' folks who like to force other folks
how very on-topic
he-he
Bert 'n Ernie
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Ah yes, it's Atilla, who wants women back in the kitchen and under their husbands' thumb. Who thinks Russell Yates should stand trial for the murder of his five children because he should have kept his wife in line. Who would suffer a woman not to speak, 'cause the Bible said it should be so.
Thank you, Atilla, for your refreshing point of view. I will give your comments the consideration they deserve.
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