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Pretty nice article. A little bit heavy on the anecdote, but good nontheless.
The problem with mixing in a single anecdote as a continuous thread in an article of this kind is that is tends to blur the line between this man's particular circumstances and that of most men. (If you follow up a story of brutal child torture, for example, with a stat about the number of abused children each year, people unconsciously link the TOTAL number of abuse cases to the number of egregious sadistic torture cases. This is a pattern among advocates of every stripe.)
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The problem with mixing in a single anecdote as a continuous thread in an article of this kind is that is tends to blur the line between this man's particular circumstances and that of most men.
That's true, although I think in the case of this article they made up for it by quoting a couple of other men who had similar suicidal thoughts.
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Absolutely. I am interested to see how many U.S. publications pick up on this issue. In the short term it looks a little bleak. But I concur with Wendy Mac when she compares the current Men's Movement to the phase of the women's rights movement as it existed in the 60's. No numerically significant group will endure blatant injustice forever. And if our own interests must first be advanced through the medium of personal experience, as women's interests were, I can live with that.
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It seems to me as many a man goes out of his way to find that HELP that is suppose to be there for all genders he would be able to indeed get it - but the chances of a man receiving the same help as say a woman in today's society is limited by a selection process - obviously men represent a status quo of individuals who are oppressed by the slanderous article writing expertise of critics who write for the likes of the Toronto Star - inundating the colums with articles of mens violence towards woman and children - not to mention any other criminal allegations - too bad that more and more indepth studies are not taken of men when it comes to their psychological make up - I have found way too few books dealing with male psychology - obviously in this world we men bare a thin thread of existence - it is about time we stand up to raving feminists and the like - protecting us from an injustice that has gone on too long - thank you for reading my peace - just thought I would get this off of my chauvenistic chest!
David
CGS ~CANADIAN GENDER SUPPORT~
http://www.geocities.com/cgs_2002ca
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Just thought I would add a little tid-bit here to this post for the general membership -- It is often a rarety that you will see a couple join a group such as this.
I just felt that you all might be interested that I have been supporting alot of mens activism groups now for nearly 20 years.
I am in full support of what my boyfriend (David) had to contributed in this post.
Thanks from both of us and myself especially my being a supporter of mens rights -- especially seeing that any domestic altercation in my personal opinion is a 2 way street.
Charmaine
CGS ~CANADIAN GENDER SUPPORT~
http://www.geocities.com/cgs_2002ca
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Thanks from both of us and myself especially my being a supporter of mens rights
Welcome Charmaine and David. It's great to have both of you here. And thank you, Charmaine, for being a woman who supports men's rights. We need you.
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Welcome Charmaine and David. It's great to have both of you here. And thank you, Charmaine, for being a woman who supports men's rights. We need you.
I second that.
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Welcome David and Charmaine
As to why there is no real popular orgainized popular men's movement is because there is no real study of men's issues in colleges around the country. Most social movements have their start in colleges. Because feminist theory is the ONLY theory that is use to analyze gender issues men are always seen as the perpetrators and women as the victims. Until this one sided view of issues is changed little serious change will occur.
I have talked to a great many classmates (most of them women) and found they also note the lack of information about men's issues and are a bit jaded about the women's studies program. I am seriously thinking about making a class (100 level) that at least introduces the various men's rights movements and men's issues that exist. Just my impression of the issue.
Tony H
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obviously in this world we men bare a thin thread of existence - it is about time we stand up to raving feminists and the like - protecting us from an injustice that has gone on too long - thank you for reading my peace - just thought I would get this off of my chauvenistic chest!
Hi, David.
A good (but short) book to read on male psychology is "He" by Robert A. Johnson. It examines the Fisher King/Arthurian legend associations to masculine psychology and is--for me anyway--a real eye-opener into my own state of mental being.
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