[an error occurred while processing this directive]
Men's News Daily Mentioned in Washington Times
posted by Scott on Thursday January 31, @08:16AM
from the media dept.
The Media Men's News Daily received an full-length article in Wednesday's Washington Times, which can be read here. Apparently MND has set its sights on surpassing the Drudge Report as the premier conservative men's issues news web site. Even more significantly, I think this is the first time I know of that a "men's rights" web site has received such attention in the print media. This is a noteworthy event.

Source: The Washington Post [newspaper]

Title: Men's site vows to outdo Drudge

Author: Jennifer Harper

Date: January 30, 2002

USA Today Acknowledges Women Are Capable of Terrorism | MHA Campaign Continues to Advocate for Afghan Men  >

  
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Awake at last (Score:1)
by LadyRivka (abrouty@wells.edu) on Thursday January 31, @12:04PM EST (#1)
(User #552 Info) http://devoted.to/jinzouningen
"We are men, we are conservative, we are awake, and we are most definitely here," Mr. LaSalle added.

Way to go! Kudos for you!

Everyone should have a voice in society, and LaSalle points that out. The article also stresses that if you like men, you don't hate women. :)

"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
Re:Awake at last (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday January 31, @12:18PM EST (#2)
(User #187 Info)
Everyone should have a voice in society, and LaSalle points that out. The article also stresses that if you like men, you don't hate women. :)

Yeah. It's unfortunate that we have to keep making that point over and over (even to some folks who now regularly post here), but it's still a stereotype that if you're pro-male in any way, you are automatically anti-female.

Re:Awake at last (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 31, @12:42PM EST (#3)
So what are you going to do when men's news daily targets this site?

I'm a bit cautious of the fact that in order to promote his site, he has to attack someone else. To me that's the problem with the men's movement. Men fight each other instead of working together.

An.
Re:Awake at last (Score:1)
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Thursday January 31, @01:37PM EST (#4)
(User #3 Info) http://www.vortxweb.net/gorgias/mens_issues/
An. wrote "So what are you going to do when men's news daily targets this site?"

Honestly, there is nothing I can do if Mike decided to do this. That's the beauty of the internet.

Second, I have had extensive correspondance with Mike and I am sure he has no intention of doing this. The goals and features of MND and MANN are very different, though we also have a lot in common. Some people might prefer one over the other, but I know many people will regularly visit both sites. I don't think it's an either/or situation.

As far as Mike attacking Drudge, I don't think it's particularly malicious. Mike was simply announcing that he intends to work harder and offer more than the Drudge report. Healthy competition is good in this respect, as long as it's done openly and without any underhanded tactics.

Scott
Re:Awake at last (Score:1)
by Mike LaSalle on Thursday January 31, @01:58PM EST (#5)
(User #591 Info)
My intention is NOT to "attack" Drudge but to compete with him. And let's face it, if I hadn't "thrown down the gauntlet" over Drudge, Men's News Daily would certainly have not received the media coverage it got and is now getting.

To be clear about this Drudge business, I like and respect Matt Drudge (though frankly I don't know him), and I think his model is damned excellent. DrudgeReport mixes national politics with entertainment news... what's wrong with Men's News Daily mixing world politics with MEN'S NEWS? Frankly I think that formula has every bit as much validity as the Drudge formula.

Finally, as for making a "target" of my own brothers and comrades-- give me a break! Talk about chewing on your own...

Semper Fidelis (and keep your eyes on the prize, guys)
Mike

Re:Awake at last (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday January 31, @02:12PM EST (#6)
(User #187 Info)
Finally, as for making a "target" of my own brothers and comrades-- give me a break! Talk about chewing on your own...

I would also like to point out that MANN and Men's News Daily both link to each other. Likewise, I link to both sites from my own. Because of MND's mention in the Washington Times, my site (and I'm sure MANN) have received quite a bit of spillover linkings. My site, in fact, has been hit by both the Washington Times and CBS.com, and both links can be traced directly back to that Times article.

I'm sure Mike looks to us to glean some of his news and I know I've gleaned news from MND before which I later posted here. I don't think there will ever be problem with peaceful coexistence. :)

Perhaps we need to start a Men's News Web ring? A ring specifically dedicated to men's news/informational resources?

Re:Awake at last (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday January 31, @02:15PM EST (#7)
(User #187 Info)
Perhaps we need to start a Men's News Web ring? A ring specifically dedicated to men's news/informational resources?

P.S. In case anyone is interested, here are some sites off the top of my head that would be good for the ring:

MANN
Men's News Daily
DesertLight Journal
Men's Hour
The Dan Curry Show
Glenn J. Sacks
Men's Rights Resources
AngryHarry
James Hanback, Jr. (my own site)

The reason I picked these sites is because they all offer news and commentary. What do the rest of you folks think?


Re:Awake at last (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 31, @03:26PM EST (#8)
I'm having trouble finding it right now, but I thought I had seen such a ring some time ago. Before you start a new one, sniff around some of the other sites, possibly some of the ones NCFM carries links to, and you might trip over it.

Frank H
Re:Awake at last (Score:2)
by frank h on Thursday January 31, @03:31PM EST (#9)
(User #141 Info)
I like MND a lot, but i think Mike is biting off a lot when he takes on Drudge. rudge is a well-connected journalist who's in a position to break his own stories, not just link to other sites. I would say it's okay in the spirit of competition to challenge Drudge, but to really go into attack mode, Mike ought to wait until he's accumulated better connections.

Nonetheless, I wish him all the best.

Frank H
Re:Awake at last (Score:1)
by DanCurry on Thursday January 31, @04:06PM EST (#10)
(User #245 Info)
Webrings don't seem to have the appeal they did a few years ago, but I don't see a problem with creating one with the above listed sites. Anything that brings additional eyeballs to these sites works in our best interest.

The whole Drudge thing does have some rather good merits to it. There are many cases that Mike can highlight as special reports. There is no shortage of conspiracies in this arena.

For example. I have a case in my hot little hands right now that smack of a Clinton style conspiracy including a murder/suicide fiasco, Goverment corruption, CPS abuse, Local Law enforcement coverup and, of all people Gary Condit.

So I do believe that the niche is marketable and can be played upon in a fashion similar to that which has given Matt Drudge his popularity. Provided ofcourse, that the focus is Principle over Party, a good conservitive format should do well.

Dan Curry
DanCurry.Com

Re:Awake at last (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday January 31, @05:39PM EST (#12)
Ok Mike...thanks for clearing things up. As long as you and Scott are on the same side, the men's movement will have an awesome presence on the internet.

An.
Re:Awake at last (Score:1)
by LadyRivka (abrouty@wells.edu) on Thursday January 31, @07:22PM EST (#13)
(User #552 Info) http://devoted.to/jinzouningen
I agree.

Camaraderie is key in any movement. If you have more than petty disagreements within your ranks that can be easily and nonviolently resolved, you're bound to cause trouble (hence the division of feminism and the Protestant churches [OK, all of Christianity]).
"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
Re:Awake at last (Score:1)
by Angry Harry on Thursday January 31, @09:21PM EST (#14)
(User #195 Info)
"So what are you going to do when men's news daily targets this site?"

Whoa!

Mike LaSalle has made my day. My Month!

What on earth gives anyone the impression that Men's News Daily is in any way detrimental to any other site?

The man is an absolute godsend. And we should be supporting him to the hilt.

I pray that he is successful and makes an absolute fortune out of it all one day. And the same for Scott.

The more men that are encouraged to rattle around the men's 'network' of internet sites, the better for ALL the men's sites, and for all the various issues that concern us.

And Mike, who has only been running MND for about four months, is already in the Washington Post!

The men's sites are not in competition with each other. They simply deal with different issues, with different angles and with different priorities.

Think of the internet as a shopping mall.

Even if just one of the shops hits the headlines and attracts a new swathe of customers, ALL the other shops are going to benefit, as people wander into the mall and sift about trying to find the areas that they would most like to frequent.

The men's movement should be applauding whenever ANY new website devoted to men's issues materialises on the internet - especially one that is absolutely plastered with links to other sites! - as is MND. And especially one that gets itself mentioned in the Washington Post! - as has MND.

I think the man is brilliant.
Web ring (Score:1)
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Thursday January 31, @04:21PM EST (#11)
(User #3 Info) http://www.vortxweb.net/gorgias/mens_issues/
I agree with Dan that web rings have gone out of style. People tend to rely in search engines more than anything else, and most web rings aren't properly maintained, ie the sites on it disappear or move, etc.

Scott
[an error occurred while processing this directive]