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Black Men and Lynching
posted by Scott on Tuesday January 22, @02:28PM
from the reader-submission dept.
Feature Submission Bill Kuhl sent in a short essay on his thoughts regarding a recent NPR program about the new book, At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America. While the book wasn't written from a men's issues stance, Bill's comments point out that there is a strong connection between the lynching of blacks and men's issues. Read More for his submission...

Black Men and Their Historical Plight:
A New Book on Lynchings

The January 21, 2002 edition of NPR's Fresh Air with Terry Gross, the Peabody Award-winning weekday magazine of contemporary arts and issues, aired an interview with the author of a new book on the history of lynching.

Philip Dray's tome, At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America, chronicles the history and dynamics of lynchings from Reconstruction to the modern day. You might be asking yourself, What does this have to do with men's issues?

First of all, I've never heard of a woman being lynched, and if Dray knows of such an incident, he didn't mention it on the air. In response to Gross' questions, the author elaborated on the history of legislative attempts to put an end to lynchings. He stated that, by and large, federal laws to put an end to this barbaric custom failed; anti-lynching advocates never managed to get passed a law to stop, specifically, lynchings. I couldn't help but wonder if they wouldn't have had far less difficulty had one out of every 10 lynching victims been female. For the record, lynchings stopped for a variety of reasons, one of which was that Nazis and Fascists in Europe publicized lynchings in America as a way of saying, Look at how you treat your people. (or your Black men, I should say)

Another gender angle to Dray's book is that often lynchings were the result of knee-jerk reactions by white men to protect white women. A very common accusation against the eventual victim was that he had threatened or frightened a white woman in a sexual way. In some cases, the accusation was rape. And, as Dray stated, an accusation of rape was sure to cause a lynch mob to form. Dray's book also brings out some interesting insights on the plight of black men in their efforts to avoid being lynched.

He stated that Black parents wouldn't want to teach their sons to be particularly ambitious or bold because this might attract the attention of a lynch mob. He also mentioned that Black families frequently felt forced to move because of the threat of lynchings. And having to be so transient must have placed another burden on Black fathers/husbands, that of finding work in a new community. I'm aware that Dray's book is not written from a men's issues angle. But it's also notable that February is Black History Month. And, thinking of Black History gives me pause.

It leaves me to wonder how the men's movement might be more amenable to Black men and include them in the cause of men's rights as we know it.

Bill Kuhl

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At the Hands of Persons Unknown
The Lynching of Black America
Philip Dray
History - Americas | Random House | Hardcover | January 2002 | $35.00 | 0-375-50324-2

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Yes, it is true. (Score:1)
by DanCurry on Tuesday January 22, @03:25PM EST (#1)
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I have often made reference to the treatment of blacks thoughout the 20th century. Many of the race riots were media driven based on false alligations of rape. "White woman Raped by Negro" headlines would appear in local newspapers and were repeated day after day to enrage citizens into acting out.

I often publicly call for more executions of women for the same reason stated in this article. If women were executed like men, they would be halted. Though it's really more sacastic, as I don't support the death penalty because of the profit based justice system.

Lynchings, like there modern cousins, criminal and family courts, were often used businessmen and politians to rid themselves of rivals or whistle-blowers, women to rid themselves of exlovers, excuse for getting caught out late at night or just to inflict harm on others.

Lynchings haven't really gone away, they've just taken on a new form. Though blacks are not the only ones to suffer from modern day lynchings, as men in general are their target, they do however suffer from the effects at a higher rate due to economic and lifestyle issues.

The men's movement is not a race issue and should be completely blind to race as it affects all men. Though pointing out the lynchings based on ecomonics clearly shows these laws to be anti-poor men as much as they are anti-male.

Just my two-cents worth.

Dan Curry
DanCurry.Com

All Men Need to Work Together (Score:2, Insightful)
by Thomas on Tuesday January 22, @04:29PM EST (#2)
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It leaves me to wonder how the men's movement might be more amenable to Black men and include them in the cause of men's rights as we know it.

While it's very important for women to be involved in our struggle for equality, we need to place special emphasis on being more inclusive of men. One of the slickest and most successful moves by the gender feminists has been keeping us men divided against ourselves by depicting white males as the ultimate oppressors while still depicting males in general as the source of all evil. Somehow we need to get past our antagonisms and work together -- men of color, white men, males of all ages and gay men -- if that last item bothers you, well, take it like a man :)

We need to tear down the walls that stand between us and that are so effectively kept up in large part by by the genfem tactic of pointing the finger primarily at heterosexual, white males. Only then will we be able to work together. The gynocracy oppresses us all. We need each other.
Re:All Men Need to Work Together (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 22, @07:40PM EST (#3)
Bravo! Thomas.
I took some time (Score:1)
by donaldcameron1 (aal@amateuratlarge.com) on Tuesday January 22, @10:09PM EST (#4)
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to listen to the program.
The one line that stood out in glaring discomfort - other men can go into and out of the my childrens' lives without any interest of the court but I have no right to do so.

Here Here bravo - brilliant observation!!!

I can't see my kids but some of the men that my wife befriended irked me, yet they can have all the access to the kids that my wife allows.

"...
if I had a rocket launcher
if I had a rocket launcher
if I had a rocket launcher
some son-of-a-bitch would pay."

Bruce Cockburn
Judicial Lynching (Score:1)
by Luek on Wednesday January 23, @12:28AM EST (#5)
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I first I thought this article was a bit of a reach for a men's movement issue.

But then what are we facing as men today? We are subject to "lynchings" by the judiciary, media and social norms just because we are males.

We are automatically (by other males too by the way! go figure that one out!)assumed by society to be incompetent to the max in anything that has to do with the home or the kids and innately devious and unreliable in the morals department.

So this does make sense in that men as a group are persecuted in today's degenerate society.

However, I do strongly suggest that parallels adn analogies drawn between the men's movement and the problems of minority races be scrutinized carefully and used rarely if at all because this in itself could cause polarization among advocates of men's rights.

We have gained momentum. Let's not jeopardize it with infighting.
Man United (Score:1)
by Uberganger on Wednesday January 23, @05:10AM EST (#6)
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It has long struck me that there is no natural connection between all the so-called 'rights' movements. The identification of the white male heterosexual as the great oppressor is nothing but the compound inverse of the identity characteristics of the three main rights movements - black rights, homosexual rights and the women's movement. As these movements gained power each realised, consciously or unconsciously, that they were at risk of coming into conflict with each other. To avoid this it was necessary to identify a group of people who were not a part of any of the movements. Of course, the idea that white heterosexual men are an 'oppressor class' is nonsense; a corruption of Marxist theory, which identified class in economic terms. The ultimate absurdity of this can be found in the black lesbian university professor who, despite the obvious privilege and status of her position, still wants to see herself as a class victim of the white guy who takes away her garbage.

Like I said, there is no natural connection between any of the rights movements. The effect of feminist policies will affect black and gay men just as much as white heterosexual men. Will black fathers be treated any better than white ones in divorce proceedings? What about a black man who is a victim of domestic violence? The harm feminist policies cause within the education system will affect homosexual boys as much as heterosexual ones. And what has any black man gained if people no longer think he's stupid because he's black but instead think he's stupid because he's male?
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