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The branch of DHS that enforces payment declares that Geoffrey Fisher is the father; the branch that determines custody and visitation rights declares that he isn't the father. Such a blatant, monstrous and obvious evil must give feminists no end of delight.
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Perhaps I'm of no help, but I've given up on having kids, and urge all men everywhere to follow my example until the laws are made safe for men. Becoming a father is against the law.
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We are rising up in shock right now. We are exploring these issues in direct opposition to women's groups and for the second time in your contry's history, the enenmy of the United States of America is the forces of slavery.
Court ordered support paymnets are a new form of left wing economic policy.
What we need is a National Strike, one week where no man reports to work. Instead men around the contry form and attend focus groups related to the penise orgasms prostate and testiciles (POPT).
Men get together in groups to get in touch with their inner penise. Let the women run the country for a week while "we" get government money to jerk off in public forums once a year.
Itinerary for the first week.
DAY 1. To be or not to be : Me and my foreskin.
DAY 2. Words of love: 20 positive things to say to your scrotum at night before going to sleep.
DAY 3. Picking up the soap: Overcomming our fear of being naked in front of other men in public showers.
DAY 4. Holistic self awreness : Men we are so much more than mear genetic mutations of women.
DAY 5. A Child survives : Techniques for recovery from the trauma of the years of spousal abuse of your inner child.
DAY 6. spot the looney : Discussion on creative manly ways to ensure that every man has at least one orgasm before "she" has had her 10th and the flesh has been peeled from your back.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 21, @09:31AM EST (#8)
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I won't have kids either. I don't want to anymore. Not until something changes. Even if the kid is yours, you could end up when the child is 7 years old being told by some guy that you can only see him or her on Saturday afternoons with supervision and you can't do anything about it.
No thanks. I think that no man, in the current state of things, could want kids.
I won't donate sperm either, knowing that it is not safe. We've seen people being asked to pay child support for kids that result from their donated sperm. That's something else men should consider.
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I've given up on having kids, and urge all men everywhere to follow my example
Your statement is very helpful, Mars. About two decades ago I made the decision never to have kids.
Men should think long and hard before allowing a female to become pregnant with their sperm. (I married a woman who was none too keen on having kids.) And they should think long and hard before getting married. To a large extent, while fatherhood is a crime in this society, marriage is slavery for a man. (I have a fine relationship with my wife, but the legislated and case family-law of this society is viciously anti-male.) Men need to keep in mind the fact that a very high percentage of marriages end. I saw charts the other day showing the amount of wealth brought into marriages by men and women and taken out of broken marriages by men and women. (I can't verify them, but based on the fact that men are often treated as nothing more than a wallet, they rang true.) They indicated that men take, on average, five times as much wealth as women into marriages and women take five times as much wealth as men out.
Since the biological basis of marriage and the nuclear family has now been removed by technology (birth control, safe abortions and reproductive technologies), we are seeing the end of those institutions. Perhaps it would be best for us all, men and women, to have our dearest friends for roommates (to get committed support and non-sexual love from them) and then have consensual sex with other people when we choose and the possibility arises.
Just some thoughts for the future as society continues to evolve at an accelerating rate.
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I'm curious. How many people reading this right now consider themselves polyamorous? How many consider themselves monogamous?
Monogamy--You are unhappy unless you have only one, committed sex partner, and you need this partner to be monogamous to you.
Polyamory--You are unhappy unless you have multiple sex partners, and all of these partners are free to have sex with others.
I think monogamy and polyamory are orientations, like hetero-, bi- and homosexuality. I disagree that a polyamorous society would be best for "everyone." I had a boyfriend who tried to convert me to polyamory, and at the same time I tried to convert him to monogamy. We ended up making each other miserable. We both felt like we were pretending to be things we weren't. Frankly, I got an inkling of how gays must feel when they try to force themselves to live in heterosexual relationships. This guy and I are still friends, and we now both agree that trying to convert each other was a mistake.
I am in a monogamous relationship now with a man whose ex-girlfriends also tried to convert him to polyamory. Like me, he was miserable in these relationships. I believe him when he says this. If he liked polyamory, he would have just entered into The Lifestyle and never hooked up with me.
I think the best society is one in which monogamy and polyamory are equally accepted, and people are free to choose which one they want. Sometimes I think I am part of a tiny minority in that I am monogamous, and perhaps monogamy would be the exception in such a society. That's okay with me, as long as the polys accept my lifestyle just as I accept theirs.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 21, @02:36PM EST (#11)
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Polyamory seems very dangerous in this day of AIDS and other STDs. I certainly wouldn't want to have my partner sleeping around with other people I didn't know, even if we used protection.
The "free love" days of the 60's are over, I'm sorry to say. Sex is just too dangerous! :-(
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 21, @03:18PM EST (#12)
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All my hormones (what's left of them) want to be polyamorous, but my common sense tells me that my life will be longer and richer if I accept monogamy. It's not that I think polyamorous people are wrong about what they do, I just think their lifestyle is more dangerous, to the psyche and the biology, than monogamy.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 21, @03:22PM EST (#13)
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I married and had one child, and then I divorced. At the time, I had no idea how I would be terrorized by the State of Washington. At one point the threats were so intense that I almost left the country.
When we divorced, the agreement was that I would receive custody when the child turned eleven. This was thought to be fair and to permit equal rights to both parents. As my son developed I began to have objections to my x-wives behavior.
I had reason to believe she was using pot (a letter stating recreational use), she had and alcoholic boyfriend, and I thought my sons inappropriate aggressive and violent behavior was out-of-character. He was five when I first noticed these problems. Now he is 21 and I just learned he was being sexually molested in third grade on through high-school by a female babysitter and two other men. But of course the female was innocent and could not have possibly committed the crime. All I can do as a father is advise him to avoid the police and their terror tactics. When he sought psychiatric help, his patient privacy privileges were violated by CA State law. He cannot even get emotional help without the State of CA violating him and badgering him with police reports and inquisitions! Why? Because he is a male!
When it was time for him to come live with me at eleven a psychologist evaluated him. She found that it would be a traumatic and emotionally devastating event for my son to come live with me. So, my rights to have custody were effectively denied by the terrorist organization we call Washington State Dept. of Soc. and Health Services. Damn the psychiatric community! Why didn’t they learn that he was being molested!?!?!? The bastards! The liars!
Now I have the privilege of defending myself against CA DA super-fem who is a true male hater. You see, my wife was abusing a drug, became agressive, and attacked me! I defended myself with MINIMAL and a legally appropriate use of force to remove myself from the situation. However, she stumbled, hit her head, called 911, and I now have possible felony domestic violence charges against me. At the least I will have a misdemeanor filed against me by a CA male hating DA. In either case, if convicted, I do jail time do to no fault of my own. If I deny the charges, the super-fems say this is evidence that I am guilty. If my wife fails to show-up in court they get to use hear-say evidence, and I get convicted. If I talk to my wife about the incident, the DA gets to dismiss her testimony of drug abuse, and the hearsay evidence will be used to convict me! Don’t tell me that it is not illegal to be a father. I know that effectively, it has in fact become illegal. It is even almost illegal to be a man in America.
It is time that men start to realize that we are being victimized by super-fems using the courts, police, and legislature. It is time for men to realize that super-fems have gotten control of the supposedly male dominated legislature and government. It is time to realize that they are filled with hate against those of us that are responsible fathers. It is time for men to realize that our government has been reduced to little more than a state sponsored terror group. We call that group social services. Men must unite and demand that the laws be changed to give us back our rights of self-defense and fatherhood.
I am proud to announce that I have successfully taught my children and step-children (all boys) the dangers of the state and of having children. They are not ignorant to how I have been terrorized and how my son was sexually assaulted by a female(s) and men. Nor are they ignorant as to how my x-wife manipulated the state to terrorize me. They've witnessed the consequences of Washington State’s and now CA’s State sponsored terrorism first hand. The step-children have seen their biological father arrested and now they've seen me arrested for simple act of self-defense where their mother was abusing a drug.
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I strongly suggest you DO NOT plea bargain but demand a jury trial. Don't fall victim to the slimy tricks of the corrupt and misandric District Attorney office. They will temp you with an easy way out via a plea bargain but you will live to regret it if you take it.
If it is any consolation, if I were on the jury I would vote to acquit you. But of course I am living for the day when I do get on a jury in a trial similiar to yours. So I may be biased. :)
The US is in a crisis situation right now, and I don't mean that 9/11 crap. One of our basic institutions, the judiciary had been overrun by sleazeball femmunists over the past 20 years (both female and male types!) to carry out a Marxist political agenda.
So hang in there and fight the good fight! There are people behind you supporting you even though you do not see them.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 21, @07:43PM EST (#15)
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Addendum:
After an unbiased review of the evidence, it has become clear that the State of CA and the police intend to suppress as much evidence as possible.
For example, at the time of the arrest I informed the police that I was dealing with a drug abuse situation. If I were a man and a female made those allegations, there would have been an arrest and involuntary drug analysis.
Further, when I was taken to the jail, they took me to the hospital because I happen to have high blood pressure (thank God!). There the female physicians assistant asked me a standard set of questions from a list. It came out (again) that I was claiming to have been attacked. Then she performed a careful examination of my upper body. At that time an injury was found. I pointed out the discovery of the injury to the male officer. He poo-pooed me and claimed that it was self-inflicted, not consistent with the struggle, and proceeded to wait several hours for the injury to diminish.
Then he returned me to the jail and had the injury (that had almost disappeared) photographed to prove nothing was there. If I were a female, there is no question but that a camera would have been present at the hospital. The police would not have tried to suppress this evidence.
Next, in the hallway there were several items cluttered about that contributed to my wife stumbling and falling against the door jam on the opposite wall. I clearly remember her stumbling. It could have been the edge of the throw rug, the thick drinking glasses that she had threatened to throw at me, or her drunken-like stupor that caused her to stumble. However, the stumble was not a consequence of my minimal use of force to get her off of me.
It was VERY obvious to the police that the obstacles were present because I was careful to preserve the scene. Clearly, the overwhelming physical evidence supported my claims. Yet the police claimed that CA State law required them to arrest me have have charges filed.
Too explain, I was trying to remove myself to the master bedroom so that by isolating myself the situation could calm. My back was to her (facing the door), she was on my right side trying to prevent me from opening the door and removing myself. It is an interesting fact that the injury was on the opposite wall. That fact alone should have been sufficient proof of my claim that she had stumbled due to the effects of the drug.
Think of it...removing my self is EXACTLY what the super-fems want! Yet if I am being forcefully restrained, they do not want a man to use any amount of force to protect their body and remove themselves. We are expected to stand there and take every form of abuse that the female desires to inflict!
Finally, If I were a female claiming that I had been attacked, the male officers would have carefully examined me for injuries. At best their examinations were minimal and from a distance. Yet the officer made it clear that he intends to lie in his report and claim that he had made a careful examination of my upper torso. Yea right! It was a careful examination from six feet away! More police lies and suppression of evidence by the terrorist State of CA.
My plan is that I intent to defend myself to the fullest extent of the law. I thank God daily and sincerely that I am a respected member of the community and have gainful employment.
Unfortunately, this defense will strain my resources for years to come even though I make a substantial sum annually. Now if I were in the lower class, I would be sitting in jail having just had a video court a month later! Why? I would not have had the $5000 to make bail! I had no idea how bad they have it even though I do come from a background where I have experienced extreme poverty.
If I am convicted, it will be with a full knowledge that I am innocent. I have no intention of allowing the male hating super-fem DA intimidate me. I know they are well funded and that they will try to scare me. Unfortunately, I suppose that makes me another male victim, and I find that quite distasteful.
Cheers!
P.S. When all of the is over I will NEVER turn down jury duty again!
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by Anonymous User on Sunday January 20, @04:54PM EST (#2)
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i can't even begin to express this frustration, anger, and astonishment i'm feeling over this case and more generally, the others like it. has the justice system completely forgotten that men deserve rights as well?
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""In July the state took his driver’s license, saying he owed more than $10,000 in child support""
Let's see. The state says you owe a debt so to encourage you to pay off this debt it in its infinite wisdom revokes your drivers license to seriously hinder your search for work or travel to your place of employment.
Brilliant!!
But bozos in black robes will do the nuttiest things as we all know by now.
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by Anonymous User on Sunday January 20, @07:10PM EST (#4)
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DNA testing at birth to determine paternity.
We discussed this in depth in the other thread. I can't see a downside.
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