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Female Rap Star Celebrates Men
posted by Scott on Friday November 23, @07:21PM
from the news dept.
News Ched writes "In [the song] 'Brotha,' Angie Stone celebrates black men instead of dissing them in the usual hip-hop way. ''When I give a concert now and say, `Where are my guys at?' they all go, `Yeah!' Because maybe for the first time, they can really enjoy a show. They don't have to squirm down into their seats because they think a woman is going to cut them up." The Boston Globe story can be read here.

Source: The Boston Globe [newspaper]

Title: One proud sister

Author: Steve Morse

Date: November 23, 2001

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thanks Angie
by plumber on Friday November 23, @07:53PM EST (#1)
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You're a big-hearted woman. Sing out, sister! But please encourage folks to change a few laws, too. It's not enough to just applaud the boys for the way they can dance.
for a change
by nagzi (nagziNO@SPAMPLEASEphreaker.net) on Friday November 23, @07:59PM EST (#2)
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This is certainly good news. Sense female rap-stars have done what seems like nothing but male-bashing (in particular black men) songs.
Great stuff
by Anonymous User on Friday November 23, @11:20PM EST (#3)
Good on her. It makes a nice change from the countless male rap artists that sing about strangling "whores", slapping "bitches" around and raping their sisters and mothers.
Bravo
by Hawth on Friday November 23, @11:33PM EST (#4)
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I tip my hat to Angie Stone. While I don't believe that most female rappers or artists are raving misandrists, it does seem to have become "uncool" in the world of female musicianship to like guys (or simply to like us too much). Hopefully, other artists will follow Ms. Stone's lead in turning the tide.


Now, I'm holding my breath for a male musician - other than Eminem - to take a similar stand in favor of his brethren. Something to cure the ailment of: "Her boyfriend...he don't know...anythiiiiing...."
Re:Bravo
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Friday November 23, @11:36PM EST (#5)
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Now, I'm holding my breath for a male musician - other than Eminem - to take a similar stand in favor of his brethren. Something to cure the ailment of: "Her boyfriend...he don't know...anythiiiiing...."

Try some recent country music: Toby Keith ("How Do You Like Me Now" and "I Wanna Talk About Me," as well as Montgomery Gentry's "She Couldn't Change Me" and Confederate Railroad's "That's What Brothers Do." There's also Brad Paisley's "He Didn't Have To Be," which is about a man's respect for his step-father.

Re:Bravo
by Hawth on Friday November 23, @11:39PM EST (#6)
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Adding to the thought of turning the tide for men in the music world - does anyone else here smile when they hear that song "Superman" ("It's not easy being me") that's been in heavy rotation on the radio lately? I think I like that song.
Re:Bravo
by Hawth on Friday November 23, @11:59PM EST (#7)
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Ah, yes - thanks for the heads-up, Nightmist! Those songs sound like required listening. I've never been into country (save for a cherished Linda Ronstadt album), but now that you mention it, I'm thinking it would be worthwhile to turn a more attentive ear to it, since perhaps it is more male-positive (and more life-affirming in other ways as well) than the mainstream Top 40 that usually drones on in the background at my place of work!
Re:Bravo
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Saturday November 24, @12:37AM EST (#8)
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You're welcome, but also remember that country music hasn't really been male positive until *very* recently. For most of the 1990s it was *very* anti-male. Most recent anti-male songs were The Dixie Chicks' "Goodbye, Earl" and Martina McBride's "Independence Day." There are a host of others.

There have been a variety of articles about how country music is attempting to lure back male listeners (who largely abandoned it for classic rock and coservative talk radio).

Re:Bravo
by Hawth on Saturday November 24, @01:52AM EST (#9)
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There have been a variety of articles about how country music is attempting to lure back male listeners...


Yes, I think I read such an article a while back. I couldn't remember if the gist of it was that country music had always been more pro-male, or if it was becoming that way again. Now I'm pretty sure it was the latter.


It's not that there hasn't been a number of good mainstream, recent pop-rock songs that either sided with the guy or had the guy expressing his point of view in an unapologetic fashion. It's just that the pro-male songs may or may not be, depending on what you want to hear. With the girl-power songs, there's no question what the message is.
Different Planets Again?
by frank h on Sunday November 25, @11:28AM EST (#10)
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Could it be that men's and women's tastes in music are so different that one genre cannot satisfy both? I suspect so.

The other thing is, let's not confuse country music with "New Country" music. Country music is a larger genre that encompasses "New Country," and I submit that "New Country" is the sector directed at attracting women.
Re:Different Planets Again?
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Sunday November 25, @12:53PM EST (#11)
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Could it be that men's and women's tastes in music are so different that one genre cannot satisfy both? I suspect so.

No, I think the music industry is simply making the same mistake that every other industry is making: attempting to appeal to one sex over another because they feel they have to "tap into" markets they feel they haven't fully exploited.

I know many women who love classic rock, which has a predominantly male listener ship here in Music City. Likewise, if you look back in time a bit to the 1980s, you don't find these gender separations in musical tastes. Males and females enjoyed the Madonna of those days. You do find age differences, though (of course). Now only women can enjoy her because that's the "market" she's tapping into with her violent abuse of men in her videos and songs.


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