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Media "Suprised" at Girls Surpassing Boys in Education
posted by Scott on Friday November 16, @05:37PM
from the education dept.
Education frank h writes "This article in the Chicago Tribune indicates complete surprise at the "astounding" way in which girls have bested boys in ALL subjects in their most recent standardized tests. These people must have their heads in the sand, what with all the NAEP and other data that's been published on the deficiencies in boys' academic performance. This is something we can do something about on a small scale, because most school districts are operated locally, and it's possible for a small, motivated group to have an impact. Further, few mothers of sons would object to getting help with their boy's reading homework, no matter what their feminist bent."

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Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by Thomas on Friday November 16, @05:44PM EST (#1)
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In the first paragraph, the journalist states that there is "a curious gap in performance that favors Highland Park boys in every subject."

The gap, in fact, favors girls. Unfortunately, many people only read the first paragraph of newspaper articles.
Re:Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by Thomas on Friday November 16, @05:50PM EST (#2)
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And for those who just read the beginning and end of articles, we also have the last paragraph, from teacher Cathleen Case, who decided to sponsor a women-issues club:

"The guys in this school can be arrogant. They can dominate class discussion. Our girls speak up, but they don't speak up enough."

Barf.
Re:wotan's coming
by remarksman on Friday November 16, @08:15PM EST (#3)
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gee, let's see, girls outperforming boys in every subject ... oh yeah, very "curious," so very very "baffling"

thirty years of mass shaming, dispossession, demeanment, doping, incarceration, silencing and stomping of males, and now girls are outperforming them in classrooms

yah, somebody run and git ole sherlock

amazingly, the piece STILL reeks of feminist propaganda

this willful bit of self-serving ignorance from the "elite" of our culture, the ph.d's and "professionals"

the principal’s “hunch” is that the boys didn’t take the test “seriously”

what they don't take seriously is you, wimp

your “hunch” is as weak as your manhood … please get a job at the make-up counter, where you belong, and leave my little brothers alone

once you and your cowardly sellout gendergoons are gone, those boys will do, and be, just fine

i've worked in the schools ... like the rest of american culture, they are anti-male at every class level

many, many teachers, administrators, and "educational organizations" like the aauw are deeply misandrist, and worse, they consider their behavior "progressive," and their behavior is supported and funded by YOUR government

the reason we have democrats and republicans is so that when one party's arms get tired, the other can pick up the club

sick media, sick schools, sick government, sick culture

i'd use the word "evil" but junior bush already locked it up

the hooves of wotan's horse are mighty indeed

i hear him coming
Re:wotan's coming
by Thomas on Friday November 16, @11:34PM EST (#4)
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Okay, I'll bite (or is that "byte?") What's the deal with "wotan?" I'd like to meet the dude, if, indeed, the dude is a dude. Otherwise, I wanna meet the dame.
Re:wotan's coming
by Thomas on Friday November 16, @11:36PM EST (#5)
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By the way, I hear those horses too -- that once so distant roar.
Re:Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by cshaw on Friday November 16, @11:49PM EST (#6)
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I simply do not trust female teachers to objectively and fairly grade tests. Neither do I trust female students to honestly and fairly take tests. This reasonably explains the discrepancies in the grading in question, in my opinion.I advise males to avoid female teachers as they, invariably, will demonstrate prejudice in their grading against them. I have a formula for women, in general, in North America. It goes as follows: "Women,at least North American women, have little tolerance for any male who demonstrates any self respect and/or character. Rather, they will individually and collectely denigrate, discriminate against, and oppress males who demonstrate the same. They seem to only tolerate males who are base and weak." This explains, in part, the discrepancy in the grades in my opinion. However, it still has not been stated what tests they are talking about. Males still score signficantly higher than females on The SAT test than females.
Re:Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by Anonymous User on Saturday November 17, @12:31AM EST (#7)
"cshaw":

Your drivel just shows how ignorant and biased YOU are. If you really believe female teachers (at least, North Americans ones, right?) are unable to fairly grade students, then you have no grasp of reality. I've been out of college for a few years now and I can say from personal experience that thoughout my education, both secondary and primary, that your formula is baseless. I've had pelnty of male teachers with their own agendas, and female teachers who were very objective and fair. One wouldn't even allow students to hand in late work because it was fundamentally unfair to other students, so seriously did she take her role to treat students justly and consistently.

And as far as female students are concerned, your accusations are just as baseless. Cheating among my male friends was at least as common as what I saw among my female friends, if not more than women.

BTW, I'm not female, so please don't try to accuse me of "denigrating, discriminating against, or opressing" you.

Give me a break.
Re:Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by remarksman on Saturday November 17, @01:29AM EST (#8)
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cshaw raises a valid point, however

the last study i read indicated that something like seventy percent of high school and college students routinely cheat on exams

my experiences in academia absolutely support this -- an extraordinary dumbing down of america has taken place concurrent with the rise of feminism and identity politics

merit, character, and standards of excellence take a far back seat to ensuring that no member of the "protected classes" is offended, for that leads to charges of discrimination and harassment, and lawsuits or the threat of them

the cheating stats, by the way, were not broken down by gender -- i'd have remembered if so
Re:thomas' new friend
by remarksman on Saturday November 17, @02:03AM EST (#9)
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oops, i almost forgot ya, thomas

i can’t really sketch ole one-eye out right now, and anyway it’s not really an intellectual, or even verbal, matter

jung’s essay “wotan” would be a good place to start, and if you are meant to be led further, i expect you will be

call it a melody more than a lyric, which is why i tried to express it musically

guess you’ll have to wait for my disc, but for now i’ll pass along the nekkid words

WOTAN

Nick of time for Jubilee, lickety-split from a black oak tree

now he's all woman, and she's all man

peacemaker tiebreaker poison remedy

One-eyed Jack in a stacked deck war, we sold ourselves like two-dollar whores

now mama's toxic, and papa's on his knees

but we'll fall like lovers to the enemy's sword

Wotan's coming! Wotan's loose! in a silver lame gown

Wotan's riding! loon bull goose, this used to be his town

Looks like the lid got nailed to the bubbling pot, the backs are striped and the stars are shot

gno-sis did I understand

no more oughta no more oughta not

Wotan!

[INST. BREAK]

Way down north the ice cuts loose, burning like the hangman's noose

every blessed monster in the land gonna break our hearts into double truth

Wotan's coming! Wild hunting! water from the rock

Wotan's risen! crack the prison and the wall falls off the clock
       
tock tick tock tick tock tick

tick tock

Re:thomas' new friend
by Thomas on Saturday November 17, @02:21AM EST (#10)
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Ooooh! Whooooh! Okay. Breather. Gonna have ta read that a few times. Thanks for the reply, remarksman.

(I will reread it. It looks quite interesting, though at the moment I can't say that I understand it at all.)

At least I know that "wotan" is a very cool name. And I'm pretty sure I like what wotan signifies. (Love that approaching stampede.)

Thanks again.

And I'll check out Jung's essay.
Re:Freudian Slip or Willful Misleading?
by Anonymous User on Saturday November 17, @03:58AM EST (#11)
Hey Mr. Give Me A Break I think you make a good point. In my experience in the schools (I've taught in them)has been that hatred of boys and masculinity is not the sole province of women. In fact frequently the worst misandrists are prickly,enervating, bloodless little men. And many of the best advocates for the boys are women.


On To The Solution...
by frank h on Saturday November 17, @01:07PM EST (#12)
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Okay, folks. we can bicker and moan about this state of affairs and waste a lot of energy, or we can do something about it. Not that there aren't some good points here, but in terms of fixing the problem, this is an area where unity is NOT required, though it will be helpful for us to learn from one another's experience. And I don't think Scott will mind for a second if we exchange the ideas here.

I live in Hamilton Township, just outside Trenton NJ, and I'm working with some volunteer parents, so far all women, to organize a program specifically directed at improving academic performance in language arts among boys. If you are at all familiar with Family Math [http://www.lhs.berkeley.edu/EQUALS/aboutEQ.htm] it is a program intended to improve math and science performance among female and minority students. I'm working on a program whose working title is Family Reading and it is similar to Family Math, except that it is intended to improve boys performance in language arts. It is offered in the evenings to all students in 2nd and 3rd grades at our local elementary school. It is made up of activities that are intended to be fun and to exploit methods that are known to be effective with boys. Siblings will be welcome and at least one parent is required to attend.

Anyone who has anything to offer or who just wants to be updated on our progress can email me at fhujber@hotmail.com.

These are the initiatives that will change education for the better for boys. I would encourage everyone who can to contact their local school district and ask about establishing such a program.

Oh, by the way, one major difference between Family Reading and Family Math is that Family Math has federal funding. Perhaps our Education President and his First Lady can be encouraged to change this.
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