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New Book: Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture
posted by Scott on Wednesday October 24, @10:42AM
from the book-reviews dept.
Book Reviews A new book is soon to be released that should be of interest to MANN readers. Spreading Misandry : The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture by Paul Nathanson and Katherine K. Young is "A probing inquiry into the pervasiveness of negative male stereotypes in popular culture...Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young argue that men have routinely been portrayed as evil, inadequate, or as honorary women in popular culture since the 1990s. These stereotypes are profoundly disturbing, the authors argue, for they both reflect and create hatred and thus further fracture an already fractured society. In Spreading Misandry they show that creating a workable society in the twenty-first century requires us to rethink feminist and other assumptions about men." This is definitely on my reading list for this winter!

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YES!!!
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Wednesday October 24, @10:55AM EST (#1)
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It's on my reading list, too! Granted, other authors have written about male bashing before, but I definitely believe this is a book that NEEDS to be written, that is SCREAMING to be written.

Let's just hope it's WELL written.

Book Buying Link
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Wednesday October 24, @11:15AM EST (#2)
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BTW, if you're looking for a comparison shopping search engine which takes shipping charges into account when searching for books, try this one out:

http://www.bestwebbuys.com/books/index.html

I'm personally boycotting Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble, so I find this a useful site to find alternative bookstores that sell what I'm looking for. And not only that, I usually get the book cheaper!

Scott

PS - I'm not in any affiliation with them, I just like their service.
Re:Book Buying Link
by Thomas on Wednesday October 24, @11:44AM EST (#3)
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Scott:

Are you boycotting Amazon and Barnes and Noble for reasons that have anything to do with MANN?
Re:Book Buying Link
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Wednesday October 24, @11:59AM EST (#4)
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Regarding my boycotts of Amazon and Barnes & Noble:

Yes, my B&N boycott has to do with the fact that they have refused to create a Men's Studies book section in their stores, which Marc Angelucci was leading a letter writing campaign effort to change. Many of us who wrote in just got a form letter reply and no progress seems to have been made. Border's books, BTW, does have a Men's Studies book section, and we used that as an example of why B&N should do the same.

Do a search for "Barnes and Noble" on this site and you'll find several relevant stories.

The Amazon.com boycott is due to their patent on "1 click shopping," which is not an innovation and should not be patentable. Even still, I would not have boycotted them until they began suing Barnes & Noble for using 1 click shopping, which proved they were willing to abuse a software patent to elbow out their competition. I'm in favor of copyrights for software, but not patents.

For more info on that, see www.noamazon.com.

Scott

PS - sorry to post so off-topic.
Re:Book Buying Link
by Thomas on Wednesday October 24, @12:47PM EST (#5)
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Scott:

Thanks for the info. Since this thread is about a book, your post hardly seems off topic to me. In the future, I'll boycott B&N and, possibly, Amazon.
I could do without the snotty editorial review
by BusterB on Thursday October 25, @01:02AM EST (#6)
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Enough said. Why is it that whenever journals and newspapers have to review a book by a feminist, they give it to another feminist, and whenever they have to review a book that slams feminism, they give that to a feminist too?

(Yes, I know that the review writer was a man, but you don't have to be a woman to be a feminist.)
Re:YES!!!
by Uberganger on Thursday October 25, @04:07AM EST (#7)
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Grrrrrr! Stop saying 'male bashing', it sounds like those other trivialisations of male-abuse, namely 'nagging' and 'hen-pecked'. The word is 'manhating'. The sound of words matters. You need a word that bites, that slaps people, that makes them jump. 'Male bashing' just sounds weak.

Apart from that, yes, this book sounds great. I read about it yesterday, and from what the authors say it sounds like it's a real take-no-cr*p analysis. And why not? Are we supposed to worry about offending manhaters? Nope, don't think so.

I first noticed manhating about ten years ago, and I saw it creep into more and more areas of the media. I never saw anyone challenge it. It really upset me a great deal, and for years I honestly thought I was the only one in the world who had noticed and who felt the way I did. It's really great to find that this isn't the case and that more and more is being said and written and done to challenge manhating.
Re:Book Buying Link
by frank h on Thursday October 25, @07:16AM EST (#8)
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Might I offer this (possibly off-topic) suggestion...

We've found that Border's, on some level recognizes men's studies uniquely from women's and demonstrates this with an appropriately-named section, right next to Women's Studies. And I would suggest that each of us, when we buy a book, buy from a store that recognizes our interests, and TELL THEM SO. For example, if you choose to buy from Border's or another store that recognizes men, then find the manager and tell him that you appreciate being able to find the books you seek together in one section.

Just a little positive feedback, but the thing is, it helps for a store owner to know he's doing the right thing, for men, and for his business.
Re:I could do without the snotty editorial review
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday October 25, @09:57AM EST (#9)
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Sadly, BusterB, the biggest majority of folks in journalism these days are liberals and/or feminists, taught to believe that men are oppressors and women are victims. That attitude is starting to change here at my own paper, largely as a result of my own personal campaign against man hatred in my place of work.

Liberal/feminist women own journalism right now. Way back when I was taking college classes in journalism, the ratio was about 15:9 female:male. I'm sure it's spread even wider these days.


Re:YES!!!
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday October 25, @10:09AM EST (#10)
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I disagree with you about the term, Uberganger. I think "hating" a person sounds gentler than "bashing" them. "Bashing" has a physically violent sound to it. And when women male bash, I definitely feel like someone punched me in the gut. If they just "hate" me, I really don't give a damn. They can "hate" all they want, as long as they don't hurt.

We used the words "male bashing" on this site all the time.

p.s.
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday October 25, @12:07PM EST (#11)
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If anyone's curious, here's the definition of "bash:"

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=bas h

And here's the definition of "hate:"

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=hat e

Re:I could do without the snotty editorial review
by Hawth on Thursday October 25, @02:36PM EST (#12)
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Shame on me, but before I read the comments and found out there was a boycott on Amazon, I went to Amazon to see if there were any editorial/customer reviews of the book. So far, there's just an editorial review which, to me, qualifies as "snotty" in the same fashion that Buster B described the one he read (and maybe it's the same one - I don't know). Anyway, if you're curious, here's the link.


Also, adding to the "bash" vs. "hate" debate: While "bashing" is a stronger term, I do feel that the phrase "male bashing" - while potent in its inception - has been diminished and trivialized with time and excessive use. I think too many people associate it with stupid jokes in TV sitcoms and commercials, and will scoff at the book's title - amazed that anyone would think there needs to be a campaign against stupid jokes on TV. Of course, all they'd have to do is skim through the archives at this website to see how anti-male sentiments have spread into much more than just our popular culture.


People might be less inclined to snicker at men "whining" about being made fun of on TV if they realized how the same attitude which promotes such "humor" is also responsible for some of the most depressing statistics regarding men, boys, couples and children these days.
Re:YES!!!
by Thomas on Friday October 26, @12:19PM EST (#13)
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I think both words can be useful, though "hate" actually seems stronger to me, not because hatred hurts me directly, but because we have been indoctrinated to view it as the ultimate source of evil (which it may well be). The very sound of "hatemonger" (a perfect description for radfems as well as their femboys) strikes a very harsh note, and that is my desire when I use the word. I wouldn't drop "bash," but I most often use the terms "hate," "hatred," and "hatemongers" when talking or writing about radical feminists.
Re:YES!!!
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Friday October 26, @01:51PM EST (#14)
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I wouldn't drop "bash," but I most often use the terms "hate," "hatred," and "hatemongers" when talking or writing about radical feminists.

Might as well use either one. If we start nit-picking the English language the way feminists did in the 1970s, we're going to end up promoters of censorship and resentment rather than freedom. We'll be the new purveyors of "political correctness," and that's definitely something I don't want to see happen.

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