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Men Less Afraid of Flying Than Women, Survey Shows
posted by Scott on Monday October 15, @11:46AM
from the news dept.
News Steve writes "This story from the Associated Press reports on a recent poll showing that women are much more likely than men to be afraid of flying in airplanes. The AP poll found that 6 out of 10 women are bothered by flying, as compared to 3 out of 10 men. 27% of women said they are "afraid" of flying, while only 10% of men said they are afraid. I'd be interested in the thoughts of other Mensactivism.org members about: 1 - Reasons for the gap between men's fears about flying and women's fears about flying, and 2 - The policy implications of this difference, if any."

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Tell every person you know about Ford's hate...
by cheddah on Monday October 15, @01:49PM EST (#1)
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I for one will not buy a Ford product, and I will disparage Ford products until I hear that Ford drops it's mandated anti-white male hate practices.
 
Ford should be listed as a "anti-male company" that enforces bigotry and added to the list of shameful companies. Does this website still have the list of anti-male companies? Also other websites should be notified... don't let this slip into silence like most other men's issues.


Men Like Flying?
by frank h on Monday October 15, @02:09PM EST (#2)
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I suspect men dislike flying less than women for a couple reasons:
1) On average, they do it more often than women, and are therefore more used to it,
2) They understand it better, maybe simply as a matter of being more curious about flight than women,
3) They simply choose not to be afraid.
I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afraid
by BusterB on Tuesday October 16, @01:54AM EST (#3)
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I suppose I sound cynical saying this, but I feel the need to point out one simple fact:

Women are afraid of almost everything.

OK, so they're more afraid of men than of anything else, but "fear" is women's great bugbear, their bogeyman, just as "shame" is men's great bugbear. I believe that overall men are less afraid of life than women for two reasons:


  1. As Frank pointed out, they simply choose not to be. Since I was a boy I have been told both explicitly and implicitly that my feelings of fear or worry are uninteresting, so I don't express them. Not expressing them eventually leads to simply ignoring them. Am I afraid that the airplane will fall out of the sky? Sure. In the scheme of things is my fear of any significance to anyone? No.

  2. I find that men are more fatalistic than women. Men recognize when they have no control over a situation and tend simply to shrug their shoulders and accept it as "a fact of life". For some reason women focus less on what is and more on how things "should be" and so they continue to obsess over things that are outside their control, including whether the airplane will stay in the air.


Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by Hawth on Tuesday October 16, @10:09AM EST (#4)
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I think women are more "afraid" of flying (and dying) for the same reason that a person driving a Mercedes through a ghetto is more "afraid" than a person driving an '82 Chevy through the same environment. The more you feel you have to lose, the more you dwell upon the possibility of losing it. Indeed, I think women feel that they have more to lose by dying than men do.


By the way, Buster - I'm a big fan of your site! Keep it up!
Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by Les on Tuesday October 16, @03:31PM EST (#5)
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Interesting discussion! There is a related issue explored in Arianna Huffington's recent Salon Magazine article, located on www.Salon.com called "Girls and Their Gas Masks". Did it strike you in the news coverage that all the people purchasing and trying out gas masks recently were female? This also relates to a fear of dying. Huffington's article was only for paid subscribers, but may be available in their columnist line up under Huffington's name. Some parts of Salon are free.
      What is interesting are the women who defy this stereotype. I think they are quite aware of it and try to prove it wrong, both to themselves and in life. They detest the image of the "fraidy cat" weaker sex and also hate it that some women do their best to live up to it! At this time of war let us honor those very heroic American women who fly combat missions! Talk about "choosing not to be afraid"! Our heroic women in uniform grew up in the same society, were also urged to play with dolls and play it safe when they were growing up. Something happened along the way and so lets reward gutsy women wherever and whenever we encounter them. Anything from a compliment to your love would be appropriate..... Les Farkas
Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by frank h on Tuesday October 16, @04:01PM EST (#6)
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I do not regard women who fly combat missions as being especially gutsy. As combat roles go, flying a jet fighter has its challenges, and I do respect all of the pilots, male or female, but I do not hold them in the same regard, in terms of courage, as, for example, Rangers or Seals. Most of these women are there because of lower training standards and affirmative action. And they seek jobs as pilots because those jobs are very high-profile, yeilding advancement opportunities not available to flight mechanics and cooks. Flying is a job that discriminates less on physical attributes than ones wits in combat. And women haven't really proven their mettle as much as they've litigated their way into the cockpit.
Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by BusterB on Wednesday October 17, @12:42AM EST (#7)
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I'm flattered that my poor site has any fans at all.

I apologize profusely for not having worked on it for months. So much has gone on in my life over the last year that the site slipped off the radar screen. Knowing that someone is reading it will help motivate me to add more in the coming months.

Thanks again. I needed that! :-)
Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by BusterB on Wednesday October 17, @12:54AM EST (#8)
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I have to agree with Les on this one. There are a few women who spit in the face of the "fraidy cat" feminine stereotype and I admire those women greatly. Perhaps it's not that they are "as brave as the bravest man" so much as that they had the option of being perfectly respectable cowards—society doesn't stigmatize female cowards—but they chose instead to do something tough. It would have been so easy for them to have simply let the men go into battle while they stayed safe at home, but they chose not to. It takes a certain strength of character to pass over the easy way out and plump for hard work instead.

This is not to say that all women in the military are brave. As Fred Reed has pointed out many times, there are women who join the military and then conveniently find ways to get out when the fighting starts. However, to those who choose to join the men in whatever capacity I must tip my hat. They could have wimped out and they didn't.
Re:I agree with Frank... men choose not to be afra
by Hawth on Wednesday October 17, @07:06PM EST (#9)
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Your welcome, Buster. And don't worry - IMHO your site's pretty encyclopedic as it is! I look forward to anything new you might add, but there's certainly no gaping hole in the content that I can see. Just take your time. :-)
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