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Jeremy Glick
Thomas Burnett
Michael Bingham
Remember the names. Write them in the history books. They were the embodiment of heroes, and others should aspire to their level of selflessness and courage.
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What if we all wrote our congressmen and asked for some kind of national recognition for these men after this crisis has passed?
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Eventually, the hijackers will be identified and their names will be publicized. When that happens, these men will become martyrs of the Islamic world, at least as far as the extremists are concerned.
The names of these three men should be on the lips of every American child and on the fron page of every American newspaper. We do, after all, have our own warriors.
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If any other folks on here are from Tennessee, Jeremy Glick had a Nashville connection to a Vanderbilt University Medical Center doctor:
http://www.wsmv.com/global/Frameset.asp?P=/Global/ story.asp?S=470163&nav=1TcT4drW
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by Anonymous User on Thursday September 13, @04:19PM EST (#6)
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The L.A. Times just said, "a group of passengers." They didn't say whether they were all male or not. I don't think anyone knows for certain. The only thing that's known is the identity of three guys who were involved in the revolt (Glick et. al.).
I'm sorry, but this kind of posting disturbs me greatly. There are many women heroes in this tragedy as well as men, including many women in the search-and-rescue K-9 units scouring through the rubble at WTC. A woman on another board I post to is part of a K-9 rescue team. Yesterday she was preparing to travel to NY from Mass with her dog.
I, like many other people, feel that this tragedy was not just about terrorism, but divine intervention. Sorry, but I can't help but wonder if God, Buddha or whatever deity is out there MADE this happen because of man's inhumanity to man (and by "man" I mean the entire human species, what it used to mean before the PC gender nazis began butchering our language). Let's face it. Our world was filled with unspeakable evil even before 9/11. Parents breed children they don't want, then leave them to die on the street. Churches are blown up by people of different religions. Race wars rage. Even during the last election, both Republicans AND Democrats reported having their car windows shot out because they made the mistake (deadly sin?) of putting a pro-Bush or pro-Gore bumper sticker on their vehicle.
I am wondering if our god made this happen as a test. This god (I don't think deities have a gender--that's a human concept) figured, "I won't destroy them completely, but I'll destroy a bunch of them and see what their reaction is. I'll give them one last chance to clean up their act."
Maybe I'm too sensitive, but it deeply upsets me to see *anyone* continuing the kind of fracturing in our society that I think led to this happening in the first place. I don't think we should hold up "male heroes" and "female heroes." We should just hold up heroes, period. This is the time for all Americans to unite. White, black, yellow and brown. Christian, Jew, Pagan and athiest. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian and anarchist. Right, left and center. And YES, men and women.
I'm a radical Libertarian with anarchist leanings. The abolishment of the Drug War and the income tax are very dear causes to me. If I were under the rubble at WTC, I wouldn't care if the search dog who found me was being guided by a toe-tag, tree-hugging, pro-Drug War, pro-IRS, liberal victicrat with a signed copy of "It Takes A Village" in their backpack. I certainly wouldn't care if it were a man or a woman. I would kiss their feet for getting me out of there. If I didn't agree with anything else this person thought, I would still consider them a wonderful, worthwhile human...and a hero.
We need to stop the fracturing of our society or we will crumble as surely as the WTC did. If we don't want this to happen again, we must unite as Americans NOW.
Spirits bless the passengers on that doomed plane, every one of them, and all the other victims as well.
Claire
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I agree with you that there are male and female heroes. On a variety of news reports, before the sex of the rebel passengers was known, reported that "three passenger" had tried to take back the plane. Bingham, in his statement to his mother, said that "three of us are going to try to do something." Three names, all male.
The reason we're highlighting their masculinity here is because of one disturbing problem nowadays: men are very often villified in the media, not to mention gender feminist propaganda claiming that we're all rapists and murderers.
We needed to point out the masculinity of the heroes to underline the fact that not all men are criminals. It's that simple. None of us will deny that there are great and heroic women as well.
Great post, though. Thanks.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday September 13, @05:09PM EST (#8)
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A very valid point, Nightmist.
BTW, I am fortunate in that I experienced no personal losses in this tragedy. My deepest sympathies go out to anyone reading this who has.
Claire
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Hi Claire,
Thanks for your thoughts on this matter. I certainly agree that women can be and often are heroes. The reason for the focus on men is that the media has a double standard when it comes to heroes.
Today, if a woman goes the extra mile and does something heroic, she is likely to be given the recognition and respect she deserves. But if a man does something to save or protect others, it's just as likely for him to be chided for being a "traditional, patriarchal" male as for him to be celebrated. Often, male heroes aren't even recognized at all - for example, we simply expect fireMEN to die in the course of their jobs, etc.
I'm not saying that women heroes are always given the recognition they deserve, and I'm also not saying that male heroes are never given the recognition they deserve. But I do think there is a double standard at play which often takes the gender of the person into account when reporting on their heroic deeds.
And since, after all, this web site focuses on the struggles that men face in society, I want to be able to focus positively on men, and men in particular, who have sacrificed for the sake of others. It's not meant to downplay the contributions of women.
Again, thanks for your comments.
Scott
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claire suggests that recent events occurred because "our god made this happen as a test"
i agree ... leaving fundamentalism aside, this is an apocalyptic event of numinous order which calls the nation to make crucial decisions ... we have witnessed the razing of the towers of the west
this is a more than a warning shot over the american bow, this is a twin meteorite, a wake-up call to a fractured culture corroding in its collective soul over the past three decades
i wish i agreed with you, claire, that the time for reconciliation was at hand, but i sense rather that we have yet to confront our dark inner heart ... we are still a nation mostly in denial, and polarizations will increase, especially in gender
all the talk is of vengeance and external enemeies, but the evil ain't in the turbans ... america has been at war with itself for decades now ... blessings will be withdrawn from the nation until changes are made
no winged mechanism or being would ever be permitted to touch the icons of a nation that was truly living its ideals
ray remark
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Eloquently said, Ray. I'd like to share something with everyone here. I realize we're not all religious people (I'm really not religious, although I do believe in God). Here's a passage from Ecclesiastes with which many of us should be familiar. Those not familiar with the Biblical version may remember The Byrds song "Turn, Turn, Turn," the lyrics of which were taken from these passages. I think it is appropriate now:
There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven--
A time to give birth, and a time to die;
A time to plant, and a time to uproot what is planted.
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
A time to tear down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw stones, and a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace, and a time to shun embracing;
A time to search, and a time to give up as lost;
A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear apart, and a time to sew together;
A time to be silent, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate;
A time for war, and a time for peace.
--Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
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by Anonymous User on Friday September 14, @12:28PM EST (#12)
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Thanks for the reply, Scott. I think I understand this better than I did yesterday. I notice that some of the gay activism sites are playing up the fact that one of the heroes on Flight 93 (Mark Bingham) was a gay man. They are not trying to fragment themselves from straights, but highlighting that gays, much maligned by much of society, are patriotic Americans (and heroes) too. Many gays and lesbians are eager to sign up for service as war looms, and they are hoping that the fact that one of the heroes was gay, will make others think twice about barring them from proudly serving.
GOD BLESS AMERICA and everyone else on this day of mourning and prayer.
Claire
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