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Sugar And Spice And Everything Nice? Not Likely.
posted by Nightmist on Friday August 10, @04:24PM
from the news/female-violence dept.
News This story on Fox News reports on a growing trend of violent offenses by young women and girls. Several reasons have been given for this turn of events, the most reasonable being that law enforcement is now more willing to arrest females and the most outlandish being that it's the result of women caving to the social priorities of "The Patriarchy." Notably, feminism is also blamed for "teaching girls to behave like boys rather than teaching boys to behave like girls." I remember my young female cousin once pulling my hair because she thought I was sitting too close to the television. She was far too young for feminism. Perhaps girls are simply violent by nature as well?

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Same response from the Canadian media... (Score:1)
by BusterB on Saturday August 11, @12:31AM EST (#1)
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I saw a story on this a couple of years ago here in Canada. Sadly, a girl (Reena Virk) was killed by a gang of her "girlfriends" and one boy. The girls beat her and kicked her, then the lead girl followed her toward home, later followed by the boy, and killed her.

Needless to say, the poor schmuck of a boy had the book thrown at him while the female leader of the gang received a lighter sentence. The boy claimed that the female gang-banger had killed Reena, but he got a harsher sentence anyway. (Does this surprise anyone here?)

The punch line to all of this is that the local newspaper ran a huge two-page spread on increasing violence among girls in which they quoted the requisite Women's Studies / Psychology professor (female, naturally). Her take on this? "This often happens to oppressed classes: they turn on each other." In other words, boys beat people up because they're mean. Girls beat people up because they're "oppressed".

I agree with the original poster. I think that one (more enlightened) day in the far future, they're going to discover that the most illuminating way to view violence is to ignore gender. They're going to discover that men and women are violent for the same range of reasons, that there are male victims, female perpetrators, and a thousand different shades of grey in between. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen in my lifetime.
Re:Same response from the Canadian media... (Score:1)
by Hawth on Saturday August 11, @10:12PM EST (#2)
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Adding to BusterB's comments, it occurs to me - as I read about the multiplicity of explanations for why violence erupts among any class of people - that we have yet to fully explore the reality of what violence is and what causes it. I think a major problem is that we tend to take violence at face value - one which implies some inherent evil or moral inferiority on the part of the perpetrator. Same goes for crime in general (which males statistically commit at higher rates as well).


However, a more thoughtful consideration should open up the probability that many people who commit crimes and who commit acts of violence - while they certainly have problems - are not morally inferior, and are certainly not evil.


In gender studies, this deeper understanding is of particular need - considering how men and women seem to have always been defined and stereotyped based on the face value of our apparent differences and behaviors. But, is every stereotypically masculine or feminine behavior what it appears to be on the surface?


Granted, I'm not a psychologist, so I may be out of my league here. Still, if I've learned anything in my relatively short life, it's that the human psychology exists on a complete continuum. And that, ultimately, everything is in the eye of the beholder.
Re:Same response from the Canadian media... (Score:1)
by BusterB on Sunday August 12, @12:40AM EST (#3)
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I don't have a problem with viewing criminals as somehow morally inferior or inherently evil. Certainly I haven't much patience with the far-left, sociological view taught in universities: that society makes criminals, and so the criminal is not accountable for the crime. My problem with the status quo is that we apply one standard (inherent evil) to one sex, and another standard (circumstances make the criminal) to the other.

I think that the study of violence (and indeed the entire study of sociology) could benefit from a period of gender blindness. Right now the discipline is so politicized with respect to race and gender that almost all of the research that sociology departments produce is worthless (or as close as makes no odds). What we need are researchers who approach society with (insofar as possible) an open mind, and fearlessly report on what they see, then test it to death.

Part of this gender blindness would be to approach questions of violence with the assumption that people are violent for similar reasons. In the cases in which this isn't so, the truth would eventually shake out. Sadly, going in assuming that the two sexes are violent for completely different reasons, informed by feminist "history" and "research," will not eventually lead to truth.

I'm sure that this point will be lost on the unconverted, but it boils down to this simple question: "If it's OK to say that men are more violent because they're men, why is it not OK to say that blacks are more violent because they're black?" IMHO, it should be perfectly acceptable to investigate both of these possibilities, but unacceptable to assume that one or the other is true without solid scientific proof... and the best starting point for good research is to assume that everyone, of every colour and every sex, has similar reasons for their behaviour. At the moment, I reject the idea that any race or any sex is "inherently violent" because almost all research that touches on the subjects is crrrrap!
I have to disagree (Score:1)
by DanCurry on Sunday August 12, @10:42PM EST (#4)
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I don't believe woman are becoming more violent. Women have always been more violent than men due mostly to a higher percentage of females suffering from a severely unstable state of hormonal flux. It seems as though more women are focusing their distructive energy out among the general population as oppose to keeping it in the home.

The most stunning fact in this article is that girls excel in embezzlement as the crime of choice. This is where the true difference between men and women can be seen. Woman tend to be more vindictive, opting for under-handed tactics which show in their increased involement in such crimes as embezzlement, poisonings, child murder and child abuse. Women that turn to physical violence are usually highly unstable and dangerous.

Likewise, men are more likely to forgive and forget, where women tend to hold a grudge for long periods of time or forever.

Dan Curry
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Such is the hypocrisy of feminism (Score:1)
by cheddah on Monday August 13, @09:20AM EST (#5)
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This quote from the article is highly significant:

"for twenty years now I have been convinced that this is the heart of the problem," she said. Today, girls resort to "kick 'em, beat 'em up solutions"
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While (gender) feminists cry about the victimization of women and seek biased laws aimed at the elimination of Due Process in our justice system, they also seek to modify gender behavior.

This is highly evident in today's programming, were it has become universally accepted for a female character to act out violently against males. Some prime time shows now have this "gender violence theme" as the central plot of the program (Dark Angel, Xena...) so do major motion pictures (Tomb Raider, Charlie Angels...) Gender violence towards men has become universally built into just about every program (not just the ones with it as the central plot) to such an extent that it has become accepted as "normal" entertainment.

The media trend of violence against men by women has increased exponentially, yet the issue of violence against women has become almost extinct. This has been done through the use of exaggerated statistics manipulated by feminists that have raised the consciousness of violence against women to such an extent that no program will ever depict such an act, so the only alternative is violence against men. Such is the hypocrisy of feminism.

There should be no wonder why there has been an increase in crimes committed by females, the socialization of aggressive female behaivior is considered "cool"

I honestly suspect that many more crimes commited by females are excused before they ever reach the courts anyway... As in domestic situations - where the man is always the guilty party....

   
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