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This is the kind of crap Fox News' Jerry Springer (Bill O'Reilly) was spewing a couple of weeks ago. This time, though, the author actually says the father should go to prison "instead of" the mother.
I'm sure many here will agree that to obtain true freedom and to be considered a true equal among one's peers, one must accept responsibility for one's own actions. In fact, there are several mentally retarded men who have been placed in prison for crimes ranging from robbery to murder. It could be argued that their actions were a result of their mental deficiencies. They were still imprisoned. Same should apply to Andrea Yates.
Does anyone have the e-mail address for this author, by the way? I didn't see it in the article.
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I sniffed around on the web and I did find out that Cindy Hasz is in San Diego. She's apparently a nurse who also writes, and her name came up associated with a couple of minor publications. The apparent publisher of the American Reporter has an address at the very bottom of the page: "joeshea@cal.net". I will be using it and hope that he forwards the message to Hasz. This is an absolute outrage.
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While I do feel that Yates' family holds some responsibility in this--they all KNEW she was NUTS, and they left her in charge of the kids anyway--to say that the husband has total responsibility is just outrageous. To say that he should go to jail instead of her is even worse. He wasn't even there when she committed the murders, and he didn't know they were going to happen that day. Same goes for the rest of her family, which means none of them can be held criminally culpable.
Let's get real. None of us would ever want to believe that a family member is truly capable of such a horrendous crime. Though her family knew she was nuts, they were in serious denial about her true danger potential. The husband is making excuses because he doesn't want to face the fact that he married a psychotic murderer. And who would?
I know this is radical, but I think insanity and mental deficiency defenses should be abolished. Drunk drivers don't MEAN to kill their victims. Half the time they black out and don't even remember the accidents they caused. And it can be argued that they are sick, addicted to alcohol. It doesn't matter. We STILL hold them responsible.
Of course Andrea Yates is psychotic. If she wasn't crazy, she wouldn't have killed her kids. Normal people don't commit murder. But just like drunk drivers have the responsibility to seek help for their alcoholism, to make sure they don't hurt people, mentally ill people have the responsibility to seek help for their illnesses so they don't hurt anyone. If they refuse to get it, and because of this they kill someone, they should be executed or thrown in jail forever. In fact, if you're so crazy that you can't help but kill people, that's even more of a reason to execute you or lock you up forever.
Psychosis and depression are not a license to kill anymore than alcoholism is.
I'm in the minority. I don't think Yates is going to get off. She's in Texas. IMHO, this psychobabble stuff is not going to fly with a Texas jury. Even if she doesn't get the needle, she'll get life in prison. And child killers aren't exactly well-received in women's prisons. I already saw a report that Yates (rightfully) got beaten to within an inch of her life by other inmates. After she gets introduced to Big Bertha, her new cellmate who's doing life for cutting up her girlfriend into 1,000 pieces, Yates will WISH she'd gotten the needle.
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You wouldn't happen to have a link to that article about Yates being beaten, would you? I haven't seen that report, but I'd like to (just because I'm trying to keep as close an eye on this case as possible).
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You know what, I don't. =( I don't recall exactly where I saw this. I got the impression that this is a rumor, but it would not surprise me if it were entirely truthful. She is definitely at the bottom of the feeding chain in that prison, especially because her case is so high-profile. Even if she's in solitary, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a guard let her out to shower, then "accidentally" let some other inmates in with her, then "just happened" to look the other way for about ten minutes.
Now that would be justice. Despite the gushing from the liberal media, I doubt Yates has much public sympathy apart from her relatives. On most online message boards I've seen, the cries of the victicrats that "she's mentally ill and didn't know what she was doing" are more than drowned out by those who'd throw the electric switch themselves if given the opportunity. And that's why I seriously doubt she'll get off.
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I'm still so angry about this I can hardly see straight! It was so clear to me just from the news accounts that this guy was abused for years by his wife. But nobody wants to see that. The kids meant nothing to her, so she somehow thought she could get rid of them and get away with it. After all--she'd made his life a living hell for years and nobody ever noticed.
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There are always differing views on a subject, but while this article is extreme and deserves no credibility whatsoever it does make me wonder about some views that are conspicuously absent from anything I’ve read on this issue.
Where are the demands that we make issuance of restraining orders a rubber stamp when fathers feel that their wives may be unstable? If the condition that Ms. Yates experienced is not uncommon, as we’re told, why aren’t there demands that any new mothers that show symptoms be allowed only supervised visitation with her children? Why aren’t we being bombarded with data showing that mothers commit most of the child abuse and most of the parental murders of young children?
Would we expect anything less if the sexes were reversed?
I’ve also not seen a discussion of how Mr. Yates would likely have been viewed and treated if he had taken certain actions that, in hindsight, would have been responsible. Such as demanding a divorce and sole custody. Or just taking the kids and leaving.
Sadly, many of the same people who advocate forcibly separating fathers from their children at the drop of a hat (it's about the children remember) also twist themselves into knots trying to shift blame from a women who coldly executes her children.
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The APA agenda:
The people behind the destruction of the family are the members of the American Psychological Association. They denounce all religion, accept theirs. They wish to control society to fit their vision of utopia by controlling members through drugs. They hate anything to do with patriarchal notions of God's plan for society. You only have to read Genesis and the first three or so chapters to see how everything they stand for is counter to the God's plan clearly layed out in the bible. Now, the women in Texas is on a very, very wild drug. Who put this poor women on this drug, and why isn't he or she in prison for life? An APA member pulled this stunt on a family in Texas.
Who is behind the false lie of Domestic Abuse, as defined by law and the propaganda of lies supporting the big lie. The APA. The author of the big lie that put a women's shelter on every block, and who for example, claimed SuperBowl sunday was a great day for wifebeating (a HUGE lie) was a member of the APA. Her lies continue to infect western society forevermore.... or so it seems.
The APA drugs our children with Ritolin. What boys are handed this sick drug to children like candy? To boys mostly? The sons of single mothers. Who dispenses of the drugs? Your mother superior, the elementary school teacher. Who developed this drug for boys, acting like boys? The members of the APA.
I read the article by the "nurse", Cindy Hasz. She certainly held her contempt for the father, but her real venom came out when she discovered he "prayed".
They hate men. They hate God and religion even more. They hate the patriarchy. They hate marriage.
This view is ensconsed on the minds and deep in the hearts of our "political class". They hate God and any man, particularly fathers who seek God as the center of their families lives. With no family, the father has no one to pass on the heritage of God. Without a patriarchy, the fathers role to raise civilized children is entirely in the hands of the Political class, nurtured by the likes of the APA policy of drugging them all.
This fairly new idea, that globalization of an "over-populated" world is also part of their agenda. Kill off humans, and drug the remaining working class with anything and everything to preserve the have's stuff, most particularly their life style. Cocaine will kill off hundreds of thousands. Marijauna to numb the lemmings' mind. Crack to speed up the process of human destruction. PCP, LSD, HALTON, Demmerall (sp?), mother's little helper (Thanks Mick Jagger)....
Are my views that radical? Not really.
Just the facts, Dad. Just the facts.
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