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Confronting Women's Violence
posted by Scott on Tuesday July 17, @02:25PM
from the domestic-violence dept.
Domestic Violence Trudy W Schuett and an Anonymous User both sent in this essay from Lew Rockwell.com. Ilana Mercer directly examines the ways society denies that women have a violent nature and the double standards which perpetuate it. She also notes that "Women's aggression is different to that of men, which is why it so easy to misconstrue" and concludes, " the old stereotypes must be replaced with a nuanced understanding; one which recognizes that if women can match men in almost every way that is good and fine - then so can they harbor the potential to be as sinister as men."

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Spreading the Word (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Tuesday July 17, @04:16PM EST (#1)
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It's great to see work like this on sites other than those dedicated to the men's movement. It indicates that the message is getting out there, in spite of the efforts of censorship-loving gender feminists.

It still stings me that college-level feminists say that college newspapers are "hiding behind the First Amendment" when they run anything contrary to feminist dogma. Heh. The First Amendment has never been about "hiding." It takes great courage to speak out against a majority voice, even with First Amendment protections. I respect anyone who is will to speak his mind in spite of the consequences. even if that person's point-of-view is contrary to my own.

For example, look at sexual harassment in the workplace. How many male opinions in the board room have been silenced on sensitive subjects out of fear that their remarks will be construed as sexual harassment?

I don't know if anyone ever checks out www.ifeminists.com, but Ilana Mercer, the author of this piece, happens to also be "iFeminist of the Month."
 
Re:Spreading the Word (Score:2)
by frank h on Tuesday July 17, @04:21PM EST (#2)
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Ilana has her own website at http://www.ilanamercer.com/ where she has posted several other articles, not all dealing with gender/feminist issues. Some of her work we've seen before, especially one article entitled "Little Man On Campus" regarding Dr. Veronica Dahl and her ill-advised comment that "...the reason boys were falling behind girls in the school system was that boys were lazy."
Re:Spreading the Word (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday July 17, @06:42PM EST (#4)
Acknowledgement, or recognition of women's violence by Ms Mercer is no sign that equal responsibility is around the corner.

America heard all about the alledged PTS sufferer in Houston who hunted down her children and violently held them under water to die. America did not hear the Minneapolis women within the last year who methodically and sadistically strangled SIX of her children. This women's support group of social workers and guardian ad litums immediately declared her a victim of spousal abuse by her former husband, the father who cared for the children when the welfare mother was looking for work. When the extended family, friends and neighbors defended the character of the ex-husband, the feminazi's disappeared, and the women is sitting in the afternoon sun and resting at St. Peter's Hospital for the mentally ill and child mass murderers. The mass murderer was never charged of a single crime. The Hennepin County District Attorney's office is too busy prosecuting dead-beat dads. No doubt, the husband who lost 6 children is in arrears, and we know Amy Klobuchar, the District Attorney is very busy issuing summons and complaints demanding payments. I'd bet a years salary the father did NOT file for a modification the day the children were murdered. That is the only LEGAL way for the father to have his support order revised retroactively. (Thanks goes to the 7-foot communist thug, Sen. Bradley) Consquently, that man had to have been paying child support on 6 dead children for a minimum of two months, the minimum length of time it takes to stop the nazi's paperwork scam.

So much for recognition and equal responsibility.
Ms Mercer's words are meaningless.

When they hang both of those women I will begin to recognize that America is turning the corner and opening the blind eye to women's acts of violence.


Re:Spreading the Word (Score:1)
by Hawth on Tuesday July 17, @10:45PM EST (#5)
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Acknowledgement, or recognition of women's violence by Ms Mercer is no sign that equal responsibility is around the corner...


No, and I think that women and feminists (well, those feminists who aren't convinced that women are angels incarnate) have a certain incentive in acknowledging sinister acts by females. I'm sure we're all familiar with Camille Paglia's infamous line about there being no female Mozart for the same reason there's no female Jack the Ripper. So, the upside in acknowledging that there are a few female Jack the Rippers out there (and maybe Jack was a woman; that's why she was never caught! Hah!) is that it creates hope for women and feminists that there are a few female Mozarts out there waiting to happen as well.


Because, for one thing, most women figure that as long as they personally aren't among the "bad" women, then what do they have to fear from society acknowledging that bad women exist? (Note: that's actually not a rhetorical question, although women might think it is.)


Still, I'm not out to belittle Ms. Mercer's column. Regardless of what her motives might be, it's about as good a piece on female violence that I've ever seen. And I'll admit, she really grabbed a hold of my heart and my guts toward the end when she suggested the images of each of those kids drowning. Perhaps we should pause for a second from our sermonizing that what this woman did was evil and reflect on why it was. That's another thing that makes you realize just how gender-biased society is in cases like this. If a man had done it, we would have been thinking entirely of those kids from the beginning. But when a woman does it, who gets all the attention instead?
Women's Violence (Score:1)
by Andrew on Tuesday July 17, @04:41PM EST (#3)
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An excellent article, though still just a beginning.

By spreading gossip about the targeted woman, and by putting pressure on the men to act, women were instrumental in instigating the murders. Although preparing the grounds for murder is not tantamount to taking a life – the fact remains that women are in on the act.

More than "in on the act," I'd say. I still remember the classic scene in Zorba the Greek, wherein the rebellious young widow, who refuses to marry the man the Village Grandmothers have chosen for her, is stoned to death. Of course, most of the stones are thrown by men, but the women are clearly behind the show. Why go to the trouble of throwing a big, heavy stone if you have a big, brawny man to do it for you?

If the Godfather lets it be known that he's finding a particular policeman annoying, and one of his henchmen takes the hint and offs the offender, who is responsible? Sure, the flunky could decline the assignment, but then where'd he be? The famous story of King Henry and Thomas Becket is another good example; the King didn't actually order anyone to kill the Archbishop, but made it plain he wouldn't mind if the pesky churchman would just sort-of disappear. Lo & behold, somebody went and beheaded Thomas on his own altar; who ever would have thought such a thing could happen? It's called "deniability."

Women don't have to be violent; they have men (their own creations, after all) to take care of such messy, unpleasant jobs for them: front men, fall guys and whipping boys. How often do you see a news story about a couple who partner in crime and get caught, the guy gets life and the poor girl, led astray by her evil boyfriend (who is usually IQ ca. 80), gets a reprimand.

Feminism is based on an a priori fallacy, the idea that the two human sexes are separate, unrelated, mutually foreign species. In fact, just the opposite is the case, and all the fuss about whether violence is "male" or "female" is a buncha cowshit: violence is human, most often motivated and provoked by females, physically acted out by males, whose real hardwired Prime Directive is "Please The Female." The difference is between those who carry out policy and those who make policy.
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