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Madonna Steals an Idea From The Dixie Chicks
posted by Nightmist on Monday July 09, @12:47PM
from the news/violence-against-men dept.
News This short article on Excite news describes how Madonna has taken what she started with her "What It Feels Like For a Girl" video and continued it on her "Drowned World" tour. At one point in the show, she shoots a man "who has been harassing her" with a rifle. For those who haven't seen the video, it features Madonna and an elderly woman recklessly driving a stolen car, which they then use to run over, kill, and injure men on the streets.

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What is Feels Like for a Boy (Score:2)
by frank h on Monday July 09, @02:22PM EST (#1)
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It's a shame there aren't many artists out there who are willing to take the same risks (or record companies, for that matter) on the part of men and boys. Eminem is out there, but then he's REALLY out there, not nearly as well accepted by the mainstream market as Madonna or the Dixie Chix.
Re:What is Feels Like for a Boy (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday July 09, @02:50PM EST (#2)
> Eminem is out there, but then he's REALLY out
> there, not nearly as well accepted by the
> mainstream market as Madonna or the Dixie Chix.

Nor should he be. Eminem is a symbol of evil misogyny, something we should not encourage or emulate. However unjust things can be, we will destroy this movement by promoting hatred of women.

Re:What is Feels Like for a Boy (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Monday July 09, @03:18PM EST (#3)
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I agree about Eminem. I do think we should continue to call attention to the hypocrisy of Madonna and The Dixie Chicks, though, and let the world know that misandry is just as dangerous as misogyny.

Here's the thing: I support the rights of both Madonna and The Dixie Chicks to express their views. What I find atrocious is not their work, but what I see as the reactions of their respective audiences: "he got what he deserved for being a man."

Violence and murder are rarely good answers. We may say, "Well, nations go to war," and that's true. They do. BUT, many of those nations continue to harbor hatred and animosity toward each other long after the physical battles are over. See the Cold War (or even the U.S. Civil War!) for an example.

All these musicians are doing is attempting to capitalize off the current trendiness of hatred for men (or women, in the case of Eminem). In the process, they're helping that hatred along by validating it in the media.

Sigh.

Re:What is Feels Like for a Boy (Score:2)
by frank h on Monday July 09, @03:55PM EST (#4)
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While the First Amendment provides Madonna and the Dixie Chicks with the opportunity to express themselves, market and political forces deny men the same opportunity. True, we can sing and say what we want, but the ability of the media to control which messages get widespread delivery constitutes censorship. So, in fact, if not in law, the First Amendment rights of the men's movement are effectively being denied because the media, and its femininst clients, exert significant resistance. For example, we (here) all know the overwhelming scientific evidence that women are as prone to violence as men, but getting that message out has been an uphill climb. Nightmist's recent comment on another posting illustrates the point: violence against women gets much more press than violence against men.
Sign of the times... (Score:1)
by cheddah on Tuesday July 10, @09:24AM EST (#5)
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Do not think for one minute that the "empowering event" of killing or abusing men for entertainment is limited to this one act in a concert.

It IS the current trend in many areas of entertainment - from programming aimed at children (more benign - but still present) to blatant displays of violence toward men in major motion pictures and regular weekly TV programs aimed specifically at abusing men (Dark Angel..) to countless examples of negative portrayal of men in almost all programming, and the proliferation of bands like the "Dixie Chicks" that are embraced by all media outlets.

Abusing men to display "girl power" is rampant in modern culture, and driven by a feminist ideology that is hypocritical in it's partisan interests in these matters.

Madonna is the "barometer" of cultural trends. She has changed with the times repeatedly. Her decision to enact a murder of a man on stage is an attempt to be "with the times" - by doing this, she has enabled her "business" to compete in the current market climate.

This validates our concern that there is a serious negative trend growing in society....

Re:Sign of the times... (Score:2)
by frank h on Tuesday July 10, @10:33AM EST (#6)
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... And so, what is the way to turn the tide? The purveyors of this trash are making money off of it and as long as they continue to do so, they will not stop. Short of a book- (or record or CD or television) burning, just about the only thing that can be done is control it at its destination. My 12 y.o. son was watching "Witchblade" when I came into the living room the other night (to which I immediately found an alternative) and he's been asking me to take him to see "TombRaider." I was watching "CSI" the other night and they had two cases: One included an elderly woman who cut up her husband and discarded his remains all over the desert so that she could continue to collect his Social Security benefits. The second included three young women in Vegas on a bachelorette party. They hired a male dancer who was found beaten to death. It seems the bride wanted a thrill and the husband-to-be walked in on them and beat the dancer. In both cases, the plot was turned to place blame on the men. More subtle, but not much different than "Dark Angel" or "Witchblade." TNT has been growing in it's investment in this kind of programming, and I, for one, would support some manner of boycott or letter campaign which targets them. Others are guilty, too, but pick one and start. Be successful, get your success noted, and it will be easier the next time. Just look at how many companies have "sensitivity training" for sexual harassment WITHOUT having been sued.
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