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Deconstructing "Machismo"
posted by Scott on Wednesday January 03, @12:04PM
from the masculinity dept.
Masculinity Bill Kuhl pointed me to this St. Louis Post-Dispatch article and writes, "My gut reaction to the article is that on the one hand it's good to see men coming together to try and help each other with their problems, and to hear about Latino men for a change, but on the other hand the support groups referred to in the article sound as though they were born out of a gender feminist ideology - perhaps these men should be reflecting on the word for Spanish word for 'hypocrite' instead of 'macho'." The article is about profeminist men's groups that subscribe to myths about domestic violence and try to "keep men in their place" by reinforcing the male workhorse role with chivalrous sympathy and subtle shaming. I share Bill's mixed feelings about these groups.

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A slippery slope (Score:1)
by BusterB on Wednesday January 03, @02:49PM EST (#1)
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It sounds as though these men are doing something good. They have specific problems (difficulties in their marriages, problems with drink) and they're trying to look within for the solutions. So far, so good.

However, this is more-or-less when Canadian men's groups started before many of them turned into lap dogs for feminism. It's a difficult thing to look within and ask, "How could I be a better man?" all the while filtering the (few) good from the (mostly) bad suggestions coming from women in that regard.

If these men can keep in mind that women and women's groups do not want "fairness" in their relationships with men, that women are no different from men in wanting to run the whole show, then their searching will make them better men. If they forget this and labour under the misapprehension that women's image of the "sensitive man" is what's best for everyone including men, if they try to become what their women want them to be, then they will lose both their self-respect and their mates. Although women clamour for "sensitive men" they rarely like one when they get one.
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