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I keep hearing from (Canadian) women that there are no good men left out there... that "all the good ones are taken." I'm waiting to hear that line again so that I can use my new comeback: "There are lots of good men out there... they just don't want anything to do with you." I'll leave out the word "wisely": I'm not cruel.
The fact is that most Canadian (and American and English and Australian) women are jerks. They love to laugh at men and blame men for all of their problems, then they wonder why they can't get a date.
As I said in my submission, I agree with this woman's assessment of Canadian men (although I don't know that American men are so much different as she says). However, do you think that Canadian women are impressed, or even appreciative? Forget it. They're as bitchy and discontented as any other "Western" women. As a matter of fact, the only countries in which women act like reasonable human beings seem to be those "patriarchal" countries where men are men.
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Hi BusterB,
While I agree with your observations that there are quite a few women out there that take a bit too much delight in bashing men, who manipulate and use men sexually, often for financial gain, and unfairly blame men for the problems of the world, I think it's important to be careful not to generalize too much with these statements. Certainly there are a number of women who support the men's movement and do not fall into the categories that are described above. Some of them are probably reading these postings.
Too often in society we are afraid to criticize women, and I want to thank you for what you have said - but I also want readers to know that we appreciate the women who care about truth and justice, and who don't manipulate men for gain in a world where it is so easy to do so these days.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts,
Scott
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Hello. I know that it might be because that canadian men are too submissive in some ways, but:
I would like to hear or read very much more about the positive aspects of masculinity.
There is one page( the male manifesto) in Aaron Kipnis's book: Knights Without Armor, there is some flashing short positive sentences in Jim Bracewell's site, there is 4 pages there:
http://themenscenter.com/goodmen.htm
There is a book Goodwill toward men, where 22 women speak beautifully about men.
THATS about ALL there is in the whole world o( that I know) on : WOW, is it nice to be a man!
And Happy New Year!
claude saint-jarre
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I agree that not all Canadian or American women are jerks, but I'm becoming more and more convinced that the majority of them fit this description. I'm finding that bashing men is becoming more and more common and as a consequence more and more unconscious and offhand. Many women at my office who regularly bash men and yuck it up over things like women whacking off their husbands' penises (happened here some years ago) don't get it when I call this "male bashing." They think they're just sharing a giggle among the girls.
Women from Mexico and Puerto Rico are still horrified by violence against anyone (not just the chosen groups) and still think that men are silly at times but overall basically good people. This fundamental assumption that men are generally good is something I find missing from our "advanced" society. As a result, I hear many women making casual, offhand comments about men that if said by men about women would be shocking.
And... I understand what you're implying about tempering language to say things like, "Most women..." or "many women I know..." but I guess I've just given in to the times. I used to do that but got tired of it when I realized that I hadn't heard "some men..." or "many men I know..." for about a decade....
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It is ancient wisdom that women are trouble. Applying that metaphysical principle in the realm of practical philosophy, one is ineluctably led to the following question. Why not avoid American and Canadian women altogether? There are women from other cultures and countries who are not so Americanized that a marriage to one of them automatically reduces your expected income by at least 50% of the total cost of a divorce.
Recall that the mathematical expectation of your income is the sum of the gain or loss incurred by an income increasing or reducing event, multiplied by the probability of that event. Therefore, in the event of marriage, your expected income after marriage should be reduced by the probability of divorce, which is above 50%, times the cost of divorce, which has been documented on this site in countless horror stories.
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Bingo.
I must admit that I had never thought of a mathematical argument for this point, perhaps because it would be a bit too abstract for some people, but I arrive at the same conclusion you do by a different path.
My phrasing is, "Why look for a diamond at a flea market?" The number of American and Canadian (and British and Australian) women who consider divorce a perfectly normal part of the dating / mating / raising cycle is, I think, above 50%. I have spent a lot of time around women (perhaps to my detriment) and I often hear them talking about divorce as if it were just another life event, like buying a house or changing jobs.
The number of, for example Latinas who consider divorce a normal part of live is probably somewhere around 20% to 25%. In that number I'm including the schemers who marry just to get a handle on some money or citizenship in a new country. (Some may argue that my figure is high, but I'm surprised at how many of my Latina acquaintances are getting divorces).
Once you let go the myth of the "perfect soulmate" (she doesn't exist—trust me) and discover that marriage is as much about practical concerns as about love, you start to think about the odds of success in more practical terms.
That is when I stopped searching for diamonds in flea markets and started going to gem shows instead.
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